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coillah
Wed Jul 23 2008, 01:20PM Print
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
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Ok So its coming down to it, and I'm realizing more and more, that inorder to properly make this coil, I should wind a secondary myself, not just because it makes the coil mine, but also because it will optimize my final output.

And it looks like it could be cheaper all things considered.

I am going for something within the 24-26 AWG range, for a 460W coil. NST: 15kV 30mA, cap is still settling on a final value, but currently I have 11.1nF as my primary value @ 27kV.

So, here are a couple of auctions, please help me understand which ones are the best in value:

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Just for fun:

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thanks!
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Jul 23 2008, 02:19PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I went with awg24 for a similar coil, your voltagerating on the cap could be abit bigger.

my res.freq. is around 160kHz
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HV Enthusiast
Wed Jul 23 2008, 03:21PM
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Neither. Both are poor buys.

Its only 2000 feet for about $40.00. For 25 AWG thats only 2 lbs. ($20.00 per pound)

The following listing has 10 lbs (or 10000 feet) of 25 AWG for about $100.00 the much better buy, especially if plan on making more coils.
($10.00 pound - twice the wire for the money)

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Mads Barnkob
Wed Jul 23 2008, 05:17PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Compared to buying at the places I found in Denmark, buying a 2000ft roll with shipping is still half price of those in Denmark. :)

I would also consider a bigger buy when I have finished the 3 Tesla coils I have planned, but that is properly a bit farsighted :)
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Arcstarter
Wed Jul 23 2008, 05:29PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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For a better price go to parawire.com (thank you andy!!). I got 2400 feet of 24 gauge for 40 bucks and that was including shipping.
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Andyman
Wed Jul 23 2008, 05:37PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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Yes. I searched for literally months for the cheapest source of magnet wire for my secondary, and I found parawire to be the cheapest, most convenient source. Sure other places were cheaper, but you can't buy the wire in small reels. The minimum is like 10 pound spools from the manufacturer.
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coillah
Wed Jul 23 2008, 07:11PM
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
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Hmm that 10lb spool is tempting...

however, if I plan on making other coils chances are I am going to experiment around with different size gauges for different configs.

thanks for the link to parawire thats exactly what I was looking for!

side note: my operating tank voltage should be around where? how do you calculate that?
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coillah
Wed Jul 23 2008, 07:25PM
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
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Just ordered some 24AWG from Parawire. I can't wait to get it...

I am going to go out and buy my PVC form today... and maybe start drawing up my primary designs... oh man I am GEEKIN out on this...
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Arcstarter
Wed Jul 23 2008, 07:33PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Just a word of advice on the capacitor bank.. a little more that 27kv would be better. The working voltage has to be AT LEAST 2 times more than the power supply if it is ac because the capacitors are rated for dc. Then you want a safety margin of some kv above the rating.

So a good rating for you would be about 40kv i guess, or maybe just 35kv.

Also, your capacitor bank should be not much more than 7.5nf for optimum performance.
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coillah
Wed Jul 23 2008, 07:43PM
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
Location: Chico CA
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gotcha.
Arc, I recall in one of your previous posts that I should do a single string of the cornell dubillier caps x 20 (.15uF 2000v), that should come out to about 7.5nF 40kV?

I was on the IRC room the other day, and someone else was telling me to not do 7.5nF, but instead 11.1nF... I dont understand where those differences come from... He also said that if I did 7.5nF it would fry my transformer... :/

thanks!
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