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small tc in argon - anyone tried it?

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mikeselectricstuff
Thu Jul 24 2008, 08:09AM
mikeselectricstuff Registered Member #311 Joined: Sun Mar 12 2006, 08:28PM
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What I think would be particularly interesting is how the field distribution around the coil affects the streamer paths/shape. Even if all it did was intensify the brightness of the streamers, that would look pretty cool.
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Thu Jul 24 2008, 03:52PM
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I once filled my pllsstc's enclosure with helium (from a large baloon) after I taped off the vent holes and the result was longer sparks, and more sparks breaking out from my torriod (instead of the breakout point where I wanted them). To get arround that I changed to a simple inverted glass cup on top of the coil (also filled with He, good thing it is lighter than air) which worked well and gave nice looking streamers for about 30s until the glass exploded from the thermal stress.
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GeordieBoy
Thu Jul 24 2008, 04:09PM
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> nice looking streamers for about 30s until the glass exploded from the thermal stress.

Big sparks _and_ things exploding in the same experiment - That would explain Mike's interest!!! wink
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Dr. H.
Fri Jul 25 2008, 11:17AM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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Here Is something that I've made 1 year ago. It is filled with argon at atmospheric preasure
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Ryan
Fri Jul 25 2008, 02:57PM
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Does anybody know what would happen if you ran a solid state tesla coil under higher pressures, like 40+psi? 100psi? I heard it would make the enclosure explode, is that true?

Thanks, Ryan.
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Myke
Fri Jul 25 2008, 03:03PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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If the gas heated up enough to cause the container to explode then I guess so. I don't see why it should otherwise.
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Ryan
Fri Jul 25 2008, 03:07PM
Ryan Registered Member #1606 Joined: Fri Jul 25 2008, 02:40PM
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Any idea what the best way to make gas instantly heat up would be? Is it true that when the arcs actually go, the air "expands" due to the resonant frequency of air being hit?

-Ryan
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Fri Jul 25 2008, 04:06PM
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The easiest way to make a gas expand quickly is to pump a lot of power into it very quickly, a capacitive discharge seems like it would work well.

And yes the air expands when where the streamers go, but it has absolutley nothing to do with 'resonant frequiency of air being hit' BS, but it just that the air is bein ionised and being turned into a plasma, heating up, and expanding.
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