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Desmogod
Tue Mar 21 2006, 12:37AM Print
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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Look what I scored! 2 x 600V 300A and 4 x 600V 200A Bricks on monster heatsinks.
They are where actually used as inverters in a windfarm here at work.
Outstanding. I have tried driving them from a 1:2:2 GDT with no luck, I believe the gates are 30V??
ANY help whatsoever on how to drive these suckers would be appreciated.
Is it worth getting some little n-channels, and then driving it directly from my SSTC board?
1142900721 139 FT1630 Brick

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Self Defenestrate
Tue Mar 21 2006, 01:12AM
Self Defenestrate Registered Member #87 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 01:36PM
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Do they have a part number on them?
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Desmogod
Tue Mar 21 2006, 01:32AM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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Yes they do
Fuji 2MBI200, and Fuji 2MBI300 if thats any help.
Should I be looking at the "Gate-Emitter Threshold Voltage" to determine the drive voltage needed? (Datasheets are not my Forte)
If this is the case, the datasheet states 4.5-7.5 Volts. Why do you guys drive them at 30+V?
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vasil
Tue Mar 21 2006, 12:46PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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Seems to work at 10-20 kHz frequency....

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/search.php?q=2MBI200&sType=part&ExactDS=Starts

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/search.php?q=2MBI300&sType=part&ExactDS=Starts

To low freq for a SSTC. You would need another setup...
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Steve Ward
Tue Mar 21 2006, 05:24PM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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You do not need to drive them at 30V. Only some of us drive our IGBTs at 30V, and this is because is lowers the saturation (Vce) voltage so we can pulse even higher currents. If you just want to test if they switch, simply putting a 9V battery across the G_S terminals (+ to gate) will turn the IGBT on. You will have to discharge the gate C with a resistor (or reversing the battery polarity) to shut it off. This is how i test any IGBT bricks i get ahold of... at least as an initial test of functionality.

As Vasil mentions, those IGBTs arent particularly fast, they would probably not support anything greater than 50khz operation, and even that would be lossy with hard switching due to switching delays.
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Desmogod
Tue Mar 21 2006, 05:27PM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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too low for a drsstc even?
seems a shame not to use them. can't sample like the american guys :( and these are $300 a piece.
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Marko
Tue Mar 21 2006, 06:26PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Maybe you could wind some very-low frequency coil. under 50khz, and hope they will live.
You may also try some smallere OLTC with them...
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Desmogod
Wed Mar 22 2006, 12:31AM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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I was thinking a very low fres coil anyway.
TcCad reckons on about 50-60Khz, but I reckon about 30 bearing on previous uses of the software.

And how did you get 10-20KHz?

wrote ...
If you just want to test if they switch, simply putting a 9V battery across the G_S terminals (+ to gate) will turn the IGBT on. You will have to discharge the gate C with a resistor (or reversing the battery polarity) to shut it off. This is how i test any IGBT bricks i get ahold of... at least as an initial test of functionality.

Perfect information, as usual from this site!
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EEYORE
Wed Mar 22 2006, 01:10AM
EEYORE Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
Location: florida, usa
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Desmo wrote ...

I was thinking a very low fres coil anyway.
TcCad reckons on about 50-60Khz, but I reckon about 30 bearing on previous uses of the software.

And how did you get 10-20KHz?

wrote ...
If you just want to test if they switch, simply putting a 9V battery across the G_S terminals (+ to gate) will turn the IGBT on. You will have to discharge the gate C with a resistor (or reversing the battery polarity) to shut it off. This is how i test any IGBT bricks i get ahold of... at least as an initial test of functionality.

Perfect information, as usual from this site!
Perhaps a KILLER flyback driver?Or see if they sell on ebay and buy some ones more suitable?

Matt
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vasil
Wed Mar 22 2006, 07:59PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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You can use them for a power booster for a future drsstc though.....
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