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Mads Barnkob
Wed Jul 16 2008, 04:44PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Dr. Kilovolt wrote ...

MadsKaizer wrote ...

Just got a shipment of MO parts from a colleague, we got 24 MO at 2$ a piece, some where brand new but we salvaged it all anyway, he didnt want his share after a few experiments so now I have most of it.

I am open for suggestions, but limited by 230V / 10A or if I remove my oven I can get 230V / 16A

In the picture you can see 21 MOTs (12 are the same) and there is also 21 MOCs and about 12 diodes left, some where blown.


1216218588 1403 FT49775 Img 0997


OMG. suprised I don't even want to know where did he get them. (but really, I do tongue ) I can't even imagine what would be possible with that and a 400V 30A 3ph outlet suprised


With 10A you cannot do much, I would suggest the standard "2 MOT 4 cap" resonant circuit.
Do you have access to a three phase outlet?





they are from a "recycling plant", its really just a container site for recycling, not the facility.

I have a 3phased 400v / 16A

also I am soon getting a 1,7kW frequency inverter to experiment with 3 or 6 mots connected in triangle, and output rectified.
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Andyman
Wed Jul 16 2008, 04:58PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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MadsKaizer wrote ...

Just got a shipment of MO parts from a colleague, we got 24 MO at 2$ a piece, some where brand new but we salvaged it all anyway, he didnt want his share after a few experiments so now I have most of it.

I am open for suggestions, but limited by 230V / 10A or if I remove my oven I can get 230V / 16A

In the picture you can see 21 MOTs (12 are the same) and there is also 21 MOCs and about 12 diodes left, some where blown.


1216218588 1403 FT49775 Img 0997


WOW!! Thats a lot of MOTs! Where's Waldo? tongue
Sorry, I just had to say it..
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teslacoolguy
Wed Jul 16 2008, 10:52PM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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OH......... MY. amazed that is one heck of a mot collection you got there. Cant wait to see some of the stuff you make with them. 3 phase 400v jacoulbs ladder maybe?
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Coronafix
Wed Jul 16 2008, 11:40PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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MadsKaizer wrote ...

Just got a shipment of MO parts from a colleague, we got 24 MO at 2$ a piece, some where brand new but we salvaged it all anyway, he didnt want his share after a few experiments so now I have most of it.

I am open for suggestions, but limited by 230V / 10A or if I remove my oven I can get 230V / 16A

In the picture you can see 21 MOTs (12 are the same) and there is also 21 MOCs and about 12 diodes left, some where blown.


1216218588 1403 FT49775 Img 0997


That poor table! cheesey
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Lakeowner
Thu Jul 17 2008, 11:49AM
Lakeowner Registered Member #1370 Joined: Mon Mar 03 2008, 09:01AM
Location: Finland
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I disassembled yesterday my tenth MO. Here at my summer cottage is a really good junkyard. I have taken 4 MOs and I may take as many as I want for 0$.

My aim is to make a star-star-coupled three-phase 12kV MOT stack for a DC resonant charging TC. I probably get soon a star-triangle-configuration 3~ pole pig which has 30 degree of phase shift. With it and the MOT stack I won't need any smoothing cap. 18 MOTs will be a great hilarity wired together and fed from 3x32A supply (230V region).

Edit: To stay in the topic: can't wait to test 4 MOT stack with the resonant cap...
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RogerInOhio
Thu Jul 17 2008, 01:41PM
RogerInOhio Registered Member #1034 Joined: Sat Sept 29 2007, 12:50PM
Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
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My aim is to make a star-star-coupled three-phase 12kV MOT stack for a DC resonant charging TC. I probably get soon a star-triangle-configuration 3~ pole pig which has 30 degree of phase shift. With it and the MOT stack I won't need any smoothing cap. 18 MOTs will be a great hilarity wired together and fed from 3x32A supply (230V region).


I have considered using two separate MOT stacks to drive a full wave voltage doubler so I could reduce the size of my smoothing capacitor but so far I haven't. Right now I am using a baby (5KVA) pole pig to drive a halve wave voltage doubler. With a really big soothing capacitor it would make a great photo flash power supply.

18 MOTs should give you plenty of power to work with !
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quicksilver
Thu Jul 17 2008, 01:45PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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MadsKaizer wrote ...

Just got a shipment of MO parts from a colleague, we got 24 MO at 2$ a piece, some where brand new but we salvaged it all anyway....

It looks like you have a pretty good start there! If you have several that have duplicates: THAT'S what you want to work with. Having several of the same component allows a lot of enjoyable experimentation. Use the less quality singulars as ballasts, etc. Try to remember what cap was sold with which MOT.
KEEP collecting! There will come a time when you have to get back to work/school - whatever and won't have the opportunity. You'll be glad you did put a good collection together when you're experiments are only limited by your imagination and not the hardware!
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Kizmo
Thu Jul 17 2008, 07:23PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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MadsKaizer wrote ...

Just got a shipment of MO parts from a colleague, we got 24 MO at 2$ a piece, some where brand new but we salvaged it all anyway, he didnt want his share after a few experiments so now I have most of it.

I am open for suggestions, but limited by 230V / 10A or if I remove my oven I can get 230V / 16A

In the picture you can see 21 MOTs (12 are the same) and there is also 21 MOCs and about 12 diodes left, some where blown.


1216218588 1403 FT49775 Img 0997



Its good to live near recycling place cheesey

1216322352 599 FT1630 Mottei
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jul 17 2008, 07:55PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
Posts: 3384
How much do you guys dare to depress me. mad Here I get anything from none to two microwaves a year sad

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Mads Barnkob
Thu Jul 17 2008, 08:42PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
Posts: 1968
Dr. Kilovolt wrote ...

How much do you guys dare to depress me. mad Here I get anything from none to two microwaves a year sad



Just post a picture of your high current wall plugs to make me jealous, wish I had 3phased 63A but thats just a mere dream living in a apartment in the inner city :)
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