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Luke_Duke
Wed Jun 18 2008, 09:14PM
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Ok thanks i have to study for my exam but when its finished Ill be back and solder the Driver together!

But i have to look if ma FBT is DC or AC if its DC i have an Old Pc Powersupply if AC i have to make a Powersupply!

Thanks either,
Lukas
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Jun 18 2008, 09:35PM
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Most, if not all, of the flybacks that look like yours with screen and focus potmeters are internally rectified.
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flannelhead
Thu Jun 19 2008, 08:23AM
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Luke_Duke wrote ...

Ok thanks i have to study for my exam but when its finished Ill be back and solder the Driver together!

But i have to look if ma FBT is DC or AC if its DC i have an Old Pc Powersupply if AC i have to make a Powersupply!

Thanks either,
Lukas
AC and DC flybacks are both driven with AC (or actually pulsed DC), when someone talks about AC or DC flybacks it means the output is AC or DC. The driver pulses the DC to the flyback primary, so your computer PSU will be fine. And yes, your flyback is a DC one.
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Luke_Duke
Thu Jun 19 2008, 12:03PM
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Ok thanks for you replies first i have to get some 2N3055.
And it is cool that i can use my ComputerPSU


Lukas
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flannelhead
Thu Jun 19 2008, 01:40PM
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Luke_Duke wrote ...

Ok thanks for you replies first i have to get some 2N3055.
And it is cool that i can use my ComputerPSU


Lukas
Actually 2N3055 is a rather poor transistor for the job. Get 2N3773, for example. They've been reported to work well. Also check out Link2 to get more information about the driver.
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Ultra7
Thu Jun 19 2008, 02:32PM
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Lukas
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Actually 2N3055 is a rather poor transistor for the job.
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This coming from Dr. 2N3055, about the 2N3055. . . . cheesey
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flannelhead
Thu Jun 19 2008, 03:55PM
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Yeah, right...
I knew that someone would joke about that cheesey But well, Lukas, if you just want some sparks, 2N3055 is just fine with the improved single transistor flyback driver. I've tried that and I got at least 3cm arcs with a very crappy, non-tuned setup.

But it depends on you, which kind of results are you excepting from it. Also pay attention on the cap across the transistor. It should be a pulse rated one (usually MKP type).
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Luke_Duke
Thu Jun 19 2008, 04:07PM
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I'll think about wich i will use.

But in both schematics there are Symbols called 8t and 4t? What is that?
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jun 19 2008, 04:09PM
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Luke_Duke wrote ...

I'll think about wich i will use.

But in both schematics there are Symbols called 8t and 4t? What is that?
These are windings on the flyback core, 8 turns and 4 turns of insulated wire.



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quicksilver
Thu Jun 19 2008, 04:14PM
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Luke_Duke wrote ...

I'll think about wich i will use.

But in both schematics there are Symbols called 8t and 4t? What is that?


That is the mechanism to describe the turns of the coils of the feedback & primary upon the core of the flyback. In your schematic you will have two areas to form coils upon the core of the flyback. The lesser turns (4Turns) would be the feedback, the Primary would be larger. This is subject to idiosyncrasies such as the flyback itself, the transistor and the overall design of the driver circuit.
Do yourself a favour and stick with something other than a 2N3055 if you're going to use a single transistor design. There ARE some that will SCREAM! and then there's the 2N3055.....:(
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