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Dr. H.
Wed Jun 11 2008, 06:38AM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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Also get rid of that breadboard - all those long wires are picking a lot of noise and this might be the cause of your problems.

Cheers Huben
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Ken M.
Wed Jun 11 2008, 07:15PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Yea, was just using the bread board since its much easier to fix parts if need be rather then soldering them all in a board then having to fix something later.
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Ken M.
Thu Jun 19 2008, 12:57AM
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So I got my PCb's yesterday, and assembled ost of it today heres a pic of the full bridge.

1213837030 618 FT46866 Sd530644
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Thu Jun 19 2008, 02:33AM
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I would recommend adding more vias to your board, since there are huge amounts of current flowing through them. To fix this revision, just drill a bunch of holes and solder some between the top/bottom layers.

Otherwise they look good!
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Ken M.
Thu Jun 19 2008, 09:14AM
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How would addind more vias help the current, considering the power traces on the other side are identical to the top layer?
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Thu Jun 19 2008, 03:48PM
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Looking closer, you aren't using the vias for carrying current but rather just a place to solder in a wire? In that case you should be fine, just make sure you solder the wire to both sides or the trace on the bottom won't really be helping.
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Ken M.
Thu Jun 19 2008, 07:10PM
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Yea I solder both sides where I can, the kvXX diodes that are vertical are only soldered on side but hats only because i cant fit the solder or the soldering iron under them, but everywhere else I have both sides soldered.

EDIT: So I finished all the wiring and the Full-bridge works fine I can get the secondary to reasonate, but I can max it out at 130V pk-pk but at that point I thinjk the GDT starts to make noises or something starts to make noises, and I might still be getting Noise on the OCD even tho its setting off the Fet and causing it to interrupt the signal. Any ideas on getting it to arc again? aside from stepping up the voltage?
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Ken M.
Fri Jun 20 2008, 08:09PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Well I got my heatsinks in today ALL 11 of them 10 are 1"x5' with .5" milled off each end and the extra 1 is 2"x5"

1213992511 618 FT46866 Sd530645

1213992511 618 FT46866 Sd530646


I don't really know if this constitutes a significant update but I thought it did.
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Ken M.
Sat Jun 21 2008, 11:52AM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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Yea...kind of a triple post, but at leastthis time I have a signifacant update.

I finally got it working....somewhat, turns out that Gator climps are EVIL for TC work, just using 2 of them for the primary was serverly limiting the current. I removed them and now I can light up a neon sign and draw a small arc made a video to illustrate what I'm talking about Link2 I also though about the whole gaqtor clamp evil comment, so I switched my power gators to just a standard power wire and now I get longer arcs that are hotter, but they still don't start themselves Link2 .

Also The OCD works fine, the only issue I think I have now is that the whole power system draws might try to draw more then 7A's and is causing my 24v supply to overload and trip the safety shutoff.

I have tryed adjusting the primary and secondarys coupling, but neither actually gives me indepentant self sustaining streamers, so My question to the experienced folks, What might I need to do to get streamers to form, even if they might only be 1-5", considering 5"+ is all I'm looking for.
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Bennem
Sat Jun 21 2008, 10:49PM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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Ken M. wrote ...
What might I need to do to get streamers to form, even if they might only be 1-5", considering 5"+ is all I'm looking for.

Try raising your 24 volt bus voltage,
though i would have thought you would have gotten something
like a 1 inch spark to a grounded rod with 24 volt bus.
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