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Paul Benham
Mon May 19 2008, 12:20PM
Paul Benham Registered Member #570 Joined: Wed Mar 07 2007, 03:41PM
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I used to use two MOT secondaries in series and they did not last long. Changing to three in series solved this and I am currently using four for added reliability.

I removed the I sections from them to reduce down the inductance and to prevent them saturating. They work really well at 6kW level without problems and barely get warm. They are around 4H each.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Alexandre
Mon May 19 2008, 04:31PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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I thought to use MOT, but I'm willing to make a choke, to have the experience. :P

Then can I do with with a value around 10H to 20H?
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Paul Benham
Tue May 20 2008, 07:27AM
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It all depends on what primary capacitor value you have and what the highest break rate is that you require. In practice you will find that the value is not too critical. 10-20H should work quite well. Say you want to have the maximum break rate of 300bps, this would mean that the charging inductor and primary capacitor should resonate at 150Hz.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Alexandre
Tue May 20 2008, 08:01PM
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I am intending to use about 40nf in my coil, I believe that 16H is already good.

What do you think? shades
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Firefox
Tue May 20 2008, 09:38PM
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I'm curious, what exactly is the purpose of a charging choke, and how does it work?
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RogerInOhio
Wed May 21 2008, 01:51PM
RogerInOhio Registered Member #1034 Joined: Sat Sept 29 2007, 12:50PM
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I'm curious, what exactly is the purpose of a charging choke, and how does it work?


The charging choke is an inductor that is used for ballasting in DC powered Tesla coils. Without it, your DC power source would be shorted out as soon as the spark gap fired.
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Alexandre
Thu May 22 2008, 02:21PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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Decided to manufacture the choke myself!

I have two MOT, burned, I will open them and place a spool of trafo in the core, and rolling in two, after I connect the two in series.

I hope that works.

thanks
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Paul Benham
Wed May 28 2008, 02:47PM
Paul Benham Registered Member #570 Joined: Wed Mar 07 2007, 03:41PM
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Tesla Brasil wrote ...

I am intending to use about 40nf in my coil, I believe that 16H is already good.

What do you think? shades

It sounds good to me. Your charging reactor resonates with your capacitor at 200Hz so you will be good to 400bps.

It is not really that critical, at least that is what I have found.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Alexandre
Thu May 29 2008, 01:35AM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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OK

I will do with the same value cheesey

thanks for all! shades
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Arcstarter
Thu May 29 2008, 04:51PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
Location: Beaumont, Texas, USA
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Firefox wrote ...

I'm curious, what exactly is the purpose of a charging choke, and how does it work?
The answer to how it works is by using inductance. It works just like the primary on a transformer. If you had no choke, like roger said, it would be a direct short on your power supply. But like i said, with a choke, it will act like a transformer primary and will let electricity go through but only a certain amount. It is basically a ballast. And if you use one mot and a tripler it will keep the current down enough so that when the capacitor charges, it will discharge through the rsg without shorting the power supply. I know this was very VERY unclear but i am trying to help the best i can.
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