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Alexandre
Sat May 17 2008, 12:39AM Print
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
Location: Curitiba, Brazil
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HI ALL

I built a doubler for my trafo of 4KV @ 300mA, and joined in a dilemma:

what I use a choke???? rolleyes


if I can use MOTs, how many are needed?????? sad


please help me!!!! cheesey

thank you very much
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RogerInOhio
Sat May 17 2008, 01:07PM
RogerInOhio Registered Member #1034 Joined: Sat Sept 29 2007, 12:50PM
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I'm using a home made choke on my coil now. It consist of about 2500 turns of 26 gauge wire with a laminated core. Inductance is 4.5 henrys . (pictured below)

I have used a bunch of MOTs for a charging choke before. I like to use about 8 of them in series to be sure the high voltage doesn't break them down.

1211029631 1034 FT45465 Choke
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Alexandre
Sat May 17 2008, 02:59PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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OK! shades


3 MOT's in series would not work? cheesey
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MRacerxdl
Sat May 17 2008, 05:56PM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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Roger, what did you use to insulation for the layers?
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Marko
Sat May 17 2008, 06:52PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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If you are going to use MOT's, you need to cut in an air gap.

I think that much easier solution could be fluorescent lamp ballast chokes. Size them for your rated current (40W ones should be enough I think) and use several in series to gain inductance and voltage rating.
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Alexandre
Sat May 17 2008, 08:34PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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OK!

air gap is similar to that doubler? neutral

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RogerInOhio
Sat May 17 2008, 11:25PM
RogerInOhio Registered Member #1034 Joined: Sat Sept 29 2007, 12:50PM
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Roger, what did you use to insulation for the layers?


There are about 25 layers of windings and each layer of winding is insulated from the next with several layers of packaging tape. Instead of starting each layer of winding from where the last layer ended I apply some insulation and run the wire to the other end , cover it with insulation and start winding from there. This reduces the maximum voltage between windings by half.

3 MOT's in series would not work?


It might work, all I know is that I tried two once and it burnt them up. Maybe it would have helped if I had used air gaps. I have never done that with MOTs. My new charging choke has lots of air gap.
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Alexandre
Sun May 18 2008, 12:51AM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
Location: Curitiba, Brazil
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I understand!

Because I'm willing to use MOT as Choke, is easier, but estpu seeing that it is more complicated at the point where the tension it is low, the same is doing a better then.

What is the value of inductance that if I do make a choke? shades
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Lakeowner
Sun May 18 2008, 08:58AM
Lakeowner Registered Member #1370 Joined: Mon Mar 03 2008, 09:01AM
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Think how much reactance you need and place it to equation X = 2*pi*f*L. Then you get L = X / (2*pi*f) where X is desired reactance.
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Alexandre
Mon May 19 2008, 01:55AM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
Location: Curitiba, Brazil
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I will make a choke, with a spool of trafo I have here. shades

I just wanted to know how many laps, at least, I do? cheesey
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