If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #1438
Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
Location: Canada
Posts: 218
I hope that I put this thread in the right spot.
Well yesterday, my Kvarts DRSB-88 Geiger Counter finally came. When I turned it on, its been acting strange so I went online to look for a good household item that emits a fair bit of Microroentgen to test out the counter. I went to dozens of websites but said that the only source of household radiation was : Radon Painted watches glass containing Uranium Oxide and an Americium fire detectors.
I dont have this so im looking for others sources. Help?
Registered Member #1262
Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 451
I sure hope you have "Americium fire detectors", you'll know these as SMOKE DETECTORS, you know the thing that goes off when your welding or when there is an actual fire.
Carbon monoxide detectors should have Am-241 as well, altough I'm not totally sure. You should really have smoke detectors, so go pick some up and test them for radioactivity while your at it.
Registered Member #1262
Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 451
They do have an optical smoke detectors now, atleast according to wikipedia. However I have never seen them myself (I think), so I'd guess you'll mainly still find the Am-241 ones like good ol' David Hahn collected for his nuclear mess.
Registered Member #690
Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 616
Go to the grocery store and look for KCl substitute salt. You could also possibly find this as an ice melter. Either way, naturally occurring potassium has a sizable percentage of radioisotopes in it which should register on your counter.
I don't know too much about radiation, so this could be a different type as opposed to alpha from the Am-241, and may not register. The KCl idea is from Theodore Gray's element collection site, which is worth checking out.
Registered Member #1438
Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
Location: Canada
Posts: 218
Thanks, im going to the grocery store now to find some ice melter. By the way, if natural pottasium has a small bit radioactive decay, would it mean that my jar of KNO3 (pottasium nitrate) also have some radioactive decay?
Registered Member #96
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
Posts: 4062
Tungsten welding rods have a percentage of thorium 232, this *does* show up on even the cheapest counter :)
i also found out that most cheap webcams will detect both the alpha and gamma particles from smoke alarm sources - the tricky part is shielding. you need to prevent any light at all getting to the sensor, thin graphite or metal coated mica works well for this.
regards, -A
btw i have some pyrolytic graphite and mica here if anyone has a use...
Registered Member #27
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
Posts: 2058
how is the Am-241 present? i have a old smoke detector, theres a silver canister with 2 leads attached to it, its filled with liquid.
Unless there is a sticker there explaining the presence of radiation there is not supposed to be any.
The Americium is contained in small metal buttons like this, some times mounted on a larger metal disk. Where it is red in the picture it is dark grey on one side and silver on the other side. Only one side emit significant Alpha radiation, both sides emit Beta and Gamma.
i also found out that most cheap webcams will detect both the alpha and gamma particles from smoke alarm sources
How did you set it up? I want to try and reproduce it.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.