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Coronafix

Tue Apr 08 2008, 12:06PM

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It's not a matter of what the belief system is, you feed kids a ton of sweets and they go psycho.
If you had kids you could see the experiment in action.
As a parent I have seen this too many times and have had to deal with the
consequences, so don't tell me it's some exotic belief I hold!!

Noelle

Tue Apr 08 2008, 03:39PM

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Some have theorized that one of the possible reasons for the "effect" of a child becoming hyperactive from eating sugar is that the child knows they are getting a special tasty treat, and that makes them excited.

Another thing to keep in mind is that chocolate contains caffeine, which could be a contributing factor to any behavioral changes. There's not much caffeine in chocolate, but if the child eats a lot it may have an effect.

GeordieBoy

Tue Apr 08 2008, 03:49PM

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It might also be due to the fact that children are little terrors and will do anything that they can get away with...

...and then say "...but it wasn't me, the chocolate bar made me do it!!!"

Anyway, it seems that not all electronic components are as sweet or innocent as the ones Noelle found...

Anyone viewing this before the 9 o'clock watershed look away now...

-Richie,

Noelle

Tue Apr 08 2008, 04:15PM

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wrote ...

It might also be due to the fact that children are little terrors and will do anything that they can get away with...

...and then say "...but it wasn't me, the chocolate bar made me do it!!!"

Well now I'm having flashbacks to my own youth.

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http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/ electrofun.html

Anyone viewing this before the 9 o'clock watershed look away now...

Dirty (and amusing)!

HV Enthusiast

Tue Apr 08 2008, 04:31PM

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Goldsphere wrote ...

You obviously don't have kids then!!

Yeah, I agree.
I'm quite familiar with the scientific method, and based on my observations of how my kids react when give large amounts of sugar, i can say without
bias, that it definitely has an effect on them!

Tesladownunder

Tue Apr 08 2008, 06:26PM

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Red cordial seems to be the stuff of popular myth over here and there is a whole literature of varying quality regarding additives and ADHD.
I guess that many sugary foods are also consumed with sugary drinks ie Coke/Pepsi with a caffeine content (45mg per can - more with Diet). There is a vast literature on caffeine effects and although it might be expected to increase activity and alertness in children, there is not a lot of science there. Certainly some of the central sympathetic acting drugs like amphetamines have paradoxical calming effects in children in ADHD for example.
Incidentally, it is still the gold standard for improving memory for example.

TDU

Carbon_Rod

Thu Apr 10 2008, 03:55AM

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Convincing anyone that little parts on a cookie are edible is inappropriate. At some ages kids eat anything that looks like candy even if its on the ground. It could be argued that its analogous to candy cigarettes - however fun - are not for kids.
:D

Saccharin or Aspartame sweeteners can trigger real symptoms documented by Psychoneuroimmunology. To point at a specific placebo/nocebo autoimmune response negates any credible short-term product testing. Some seem to think this can be turned into a therapy in itself:

Interestingly, it is the low cost high-fructose corn syrup and not sucrose that became a recent 25 year industry experiment. Some studies have suggested it may be responsible for increased instances of overweight individuals, and heart problems.

Notably, diet savvy Aspartame users may fair no better:

Personal opinions aside, dealing with the politics behind Sugar is similar to oil or tobacco.
:)

Cheers,

Chris Russell

Thu Apr 10 2008, 04:41PM

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Wow, you folks sure do know how to take the fun out of cookies. I think everyone's sort of missing the point, anyway. These aren't for kids that are too young to know the difference between candy resistors and real ones, and you certainly aren't going to be eating so many of them that you need to be worried about the dietary implications. At any rate:

Twelve double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of sugar challenges failed to provide any evidence that sugar ingestion leads to untoward behavior in children with Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or in normal children. Likewise, none of the studies testing candy or chocolate found any negative effect of these foods on behavior.

Science wins over anecdotal evidence every time.

HV Enthusiast

Thu Apr 10 2008, 06:05PM

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wrote ...

Science wins over anecdotal evidence every time.

Again, whoever wrote that article clearly didn't have any kids!!!!

lpfthings

Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:05PM

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I saw these a while back, i think its a pretty cool idea, apart from the pretzel sticks, since most of it is candy, keeping it all candy would be better

Dunno what other non-geeks would think of them though LOL

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