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Very low temps with Isopropanol/Ice mix?

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Backyard Skunkworks
Sun Apr 27 2008, 10:45PM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
Location: Maryland, USA
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I tried a larger mix of about 50cc IPA and 50g ice shavings, both chillded to -17C. After leaving them in a thermos (vacuum flask), inside a foam box, inside my freezer for about an hour I measured a drop to about -20C, the mixture refused to get any colder.

I did a little asking around and finally found out that the flaw in this plan is not with the theory, it all holds true. It's with the application. While ice does melt slightly even when far below its melting point, the rate becomes so slow that even in a vacuum flask, more heat will have entered the system then the endothermic melting will have used.

Basically this works in theory, but the temp drop is so small its not practical for getting a good cooling bath via endothremics.
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Bored Chemist
Mon Apr 28 2008, 06:05AM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
Location: sheffield
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It looks like the eutectic is about -20C
The ice doesn't ordinarily melt below the melting point, but it does dissolve.
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