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DRSSTC Primary strike failures

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Bennem
Wed Mar 12 2008, 07:16PM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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Hi tom,

Thanks for the suggestion,
I will try the split tank cap arrangement, i think Steve Ward used to do that on his early
ISSTC coils too.
I do use TVS across each IGBT collector to emitter,
How many TVS do you use on your string from MMC to ground?

Is this what you mean't?

]tesla.txt[/file]

Here's a link to video footage of its last run

Link2

Mel
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Tom540
Thu Mar 13 2008, 03:21AM
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Yes Thats how I meant it. I have two caps in my MMC and they're rated at 2k each. I use 5 440v tvs's. I got 5 from trial and error if i used 4 it would start to conduct before running at full power. I think with 5 I have just enough headroom to where it prevents anything above normal operating voltage.
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Mar 13 2008, 11:37AM
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Bennem wrote ...

EastVoltResearch wrote ...

Yes.
Thats why a strike rail is required.


I installed two strike rings.....i guess a third can't hurt.....lol


1205163630 154 FT40869 Drsstc 4


Speaking of shorted turns - i hope those strike rails aren't closed loops. You need at least about 6" spacing to prevent shorted turns and also to prevent arcing between the loop ends.

Dan

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Bennem
Thu Mar 13 2008, 06:12PM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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EastVoltResearch wrote ...



1205163630 154 FT40869 Drsstc 4


Speaking of shorted turns - i hope those strike rails aren't closed loops. You need at least about 6" spacing to prevent shorted turns and also to prevent arcing between the loop ends.

Dan



Hi Dan,

Yes I have a spacing in my strike rails, so its not a shorted turn.
i had no arcing between loop ends.
I think i need to raise my lower strike rail a little,
and perhaps a larger diameter upper strike rail.

Mel.
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Paul Benham
Mon Mar 17 2008, 09:21PM
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Hi Mel,

In theory the larger the diameter of the strike rail tube the less likely it is that corona will form on it at any given power level. Can you go to two toroids on the top to help steer the sparks away from the primary?

Cheers,

Paul.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Mar 17 2008, 09:52PM
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Dr. Shock wrote ...


Speaking of shorted turns - i hope those strike rails aren't closed loops. You need at least about 6" spacing to prevent shorted turns and also to prevent arcing between the loop ends.

Dan

I don't know what everyone has with these shorted turns. Toroid is, after all, a shorted turn to, and a big one.


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HV Enthusiast
Tue Mar 18 2008, 01:52AM
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Plasmaddict wrote ...

Dr. Shock wrote ...


Speaking of shorted turns - i hope those strike rails aren't closed loops. You need at least about 6" spacing to prevent shorted turns and also to prevent arcing between the loop ends.

Dan

I don't know what everyone has with these shorted turns. Toroid is, after all, a shorted turn to, and a big one.

The amount of field at the toroid from the primary is relatively negligible. The field from the primary will maximize in the plane of the primary coil, right where the strike rail is. The field then decreases by the square of the distance.
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Bennem
Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:25AM
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Paul Benham wrote ...

Hi Mel,

In theory the larger the diameter of the strike rail tube the less likely it is that corona will form on it at any given power level. Can you go to two toroids on the top to help steer the sparks away from the primary?

Cheers,

Paul.



Hi Paul,
I will increase the diameter of the strike rails...and try adding a smaller toroid under my current one.
I still have to get some replacement IGBT's so it may be a while untill i have the
coil up and running as these HGT1N40N60A4D's are expensive and not so readily available
anymore (but Farnell and Mouser have some left)
So....i may have design a bridge layout to take alternative IGBT's.

Thanks guys for all of your replies!

Mel.



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