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Alexandre
Fri Mar 07 2008, 07:37PM Print
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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What is the best doubler can I use for two MOT, in my tesla coil?
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Myke
Fri Mar 07 2008, 11:25PM
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I thought there was only one double that can be made with caps and diodes. Or it may just be the easiest way to double the voltage.
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Alexandre
Fri Mar 07 2008, 11:37PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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There are several types of doubler's, full wave, half wave, ...
I wanted to know what the most use in tesla coils?
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MOT_man
Sun Mar 09 2008, 04:41AM
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Myke wrote ...

I thought there was only one double that can be made with caps and diodes. Or it may just be the easiest way to double the voltage.

No... one can multiply the voltage by several times if enough caps and diodes are used. 4400 VAC - can easily be multiplied via diode/cap to 12-15 kV (DC). I've done it several times.
The performance can be rather nice at 3 kW !!
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Myke
Sun Mar 09 2008, 07:40PM
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I meant configuration. So there are only 2 configurations you can build with diodes and caps to multiply the voltage (full and half wave)?
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Proud Mary
Sun Mar 09 2008, 09:13PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Myke wrote ...
So there are only 2 configurations you can build with diodes and caps to multiply the voltage (full and half wave)?

No there are more, Myke. Check out these circuit diagrams and explanations at Voltage Multipliers Inc:

Link2

You can also download a C&W generator calculator from them too!
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Nik
Sun Mar 09 2008, 10:34PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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Well the first and second diagrams are identical and the last 2 diagrams are identical electricaly. So that leaves you with 3 designs. Half wave multiplier for single phase, Half wave for "2 phase" + gnd and full wave for "2 phase" + gnd.
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Alexandre
Mon Mar 10 2008, 05:37PM
Alexandre Registered Member #1228 Joined: Tue Jan 15 2008, 01:08AM
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ok
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Arcstarter
Tue Mar 11 2008, 02:04AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Use this:
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just watch the whole video. I am making a dc tesla coil based on this. As you can see even a small secondary can put out more than it's own size in arcs. Just make sure if you use it for dc charging(which you must with this setup if you use a small capacitor)to use a rotary spark gap. Otherwise you will get a powerful arc through the spark gap that will turn steel red hot in mabey a minute.



Hope it helped!
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MOT_man
Tue Mar 11 2008, 02:37AM
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Well, a great set up is using 6" PVC secondary form and using 22 -27 AWG magnet wire. I used 27 AWG with a 3/8" copper tubing primary and the results were insane at 3 kVA. I was able to get 80" without proper tuning!! My primary capacitor was 50 nF
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