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Munkey
Tue Mar 04 2008, 09:56PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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I'm back.
Ill start thinking about ballasting when the house's wiring starts burning up.

Anyway, the real point of this thread was to try to find out the calculations of the primary coil- How do I go abouts this??

If I can't find any calculations Ill use vasil's specs and schematic, the only problem with that is I have wound the secondary of 1500 tuns around a 2" former, so I may have to alter it a bit...
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Cain
Wed Mar 05 2008, 12:50PM
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i have found you build a good coil if you leave yourself "room to move" as long as you primary has enough room to tune you can get a good output.. i used wintesla at
2/3rds of the rated output of the MOTs (and don't trust your amp meter on the primary side i have had some very misleading results)

I'm running a twin MOT supply (I'm using microwave oven caps and diodes as a doubler circuit and a resistive ballast (2 X 100Ω wire wound) i found the inductive ballasts heavy etc), a 0.1µf MMC (18kv DC rating), a 4 inch secondary and a HUGE top load.. the main reason for the huge top load is my caps to big so i need to increase the top load to give me more turns on my primary ( I'm at about 4.5 turns) the new 6" secondary should fix that problem.
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vasil
Wed Mar 05 2008, 01:14PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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Just build wour own system. More secondary inductance = more primary turns = less energy burned in the spark gap, so it sounds good. Give it a try.
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Munkey
Wed Mar 05 2008, 05:09PM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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Right now I am having trouble sourcing suitable tank caps for cheap, but ill see what turns up.

So the primary is somewhat a guess but I do need some guidelines. I assume the primary is not going to be more than 100 turns but experimenting with 0 to 100 turns, adding one more turn each time could be a very tedious task... Any ways around this?
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vasil
Thu Mar 06 2008, 04:12PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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Lp*Cp = Ls*Cs
Starting from the basic equation calculate the secondary resonance frequency. Calculate the inductance of a primary coil with 10-14 turns, according with your secondary parameters (coupling, pri-sec spacing, etc) and then find the primary cap needed.
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Munkey
Sun Mar 09 2008, 10:05AM
Munkey Registered Member #588 Joined: Sat Mar 17 2007, 11:06AM
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vasil wrote ...

Lp*Cp = Ls*Cs
Starting from the basic equation calculate the secondary resonance frequency. Calculate the inductance of a primary coil with 10-14 turns, according with your secondary parameters (coupling, pri-sec spacing, etc) and then find the primary cap needed.
Yay! Thats what I was looking for (I think) Now all I need is some caps...
Thanks,
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