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vasil
Sat Apr 01 2006, 06:44PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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It would be safer.
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infinitum
Sat Apr 01 2006, 10:20PM
infinitum Registered Member #307 Joined: Sun Mar 12 2006, 06:41AM
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What would be safer? Could you clarify?
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GimpyJoe
Sat Apr 01 2006, 11:21PM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
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You really should seal the ends of the pipe, especially if you will be arcing farther than the length of the secondary. Otherwise you can get an arc inside which will cause a carbon track and ruin your secondary. Also, you must be absolutely sure that your ground connections, wires, bolts, etc. do not run inside the base of your secondary.
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infinitum
Sat Apr 01 2006, 11:28PM
infinitum Registered Member #307 Joined: Sun Mar 12 2006, 06:41AM
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What should I use to seal the ends? Pieces of lexan, cardboard, PVC pipe end caps?
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GimpyJoe
Sun Apr 02 2006, 01:46AM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
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Lexan would be good, but just about any plastic will work as long as it isn't black. I usually use silicon to attach the disc to the end (you really only need to do the top) since it insulates well and fills all the cracks.
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Part Scavenger
Sun Apr 02 2006, 02:09AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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Huh. I never thought about sealing the end of the secondary to protect it, I just did it because I had to. I have accomplished 2.5x secondary spark length with 3/4" plywood sealing the ends and no problems at all. That was 50" with a 20" secondary. I'll bet plexiglass would work just fine if lexan is too expensive.

They're seroius about not letting wires and bolts extend down in the secondary. This happened to one of my first coils because I let the secondary wire hang down in the tube. cheesey

BTW, vasil meant that a rounded rotor would be safer. I agree.
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ArcLight
Sun Apr 02 2006, 08:09PM
ArcLight Registered Member #341 Joined: Thu Mar 23 2006, 07:41PM
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I have read on other threads about the shortcomings of having the wires on the end of the secondary inside of the form and the need to seal the ends of the form. I have never sealed the ends other than having a piece of plywood covering the top and the bottom setting on a glass MO tray. I’m new to building coils, but I can’t understand why fresh air would be our enemy

As you can see, I don’t leave much wire inside the coil, enough to get the job done with a little slack. And even with my salt water/wine bottle cap. I routinely make streamers that are twice the length of the secondary and have never had a problem. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.

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ArcLight
Sun Apr 02 2006, 08:18PM
ArcLight Registered Member #341 Joined: Thu Mar 23 2006, 07:41PM
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I have read on other threads about the shortcomings of having the wires on the end of the secondary inside of the form and the need to seal the ends of the form. I have never sealed the ends other than having a piece of plywood covering the top and the bottom setting on a glass MO tray. I’m new to building coils, but I can’t understand why fresh air would be our enemy

As you can see, I don’t leave much wire inside the coil, enough to get the job done with a little slack. And even with my salt water/wine bottle cap. I routinely make streamers that are twice the length of the secondary and have never had a problem. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.

1144007932 341 FT3900 Dscf8844hv

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infinitum
Sun Apr 09 2006, 06:51AM
infinitum Registered Member #307 Joined: Sun Mar 12 2006, 06:41AM
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I opened my NST today because I was bored (I haven't used it yet):

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Is it safe to run it with the tar being all cracked along the top?
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Sun Apr 09 2006, 06:56AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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I would say you should be ok. Although cracked tar might be a sign of prevoius abuse mistrust

I am not sure it the second pic is supposed to be showing the weld (which is normal) of just the tar, but it looks ok to me. At the top the tar isn't really important, it just needs to protect arround the hv secondaries...

have fun and be safe!
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