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Smiley
Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:45AM Print
Smiley Registered Member #1249 Joined: Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:18AM
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Hey all, i'm new to the site. (I bet people are rolling their eyes at another naive newbie) but I plan to try and learn and have done a fair bit of reading up on the net about tesla coils. Now trying to talk about tesla coils to people where I live usually ends in them bringing up red alert so its hard for me to be sure if i'm doing the right thing. So thanks to deepfriedneon, i've come up with a rough plan and would just like to know if it sounds plausible to you guys.

Well i've got a 9kv 100mA NST. Here is a rough break up on the specs:

Secondary diameter: 150mm
Secondary height: 660mm
Secondary wire thickness: 0.7068mm including enamel (22 gauge)
Number of turns: 930
Toroid: horizontal diameter = 380mm, vertical diameter = 100mm
Resonant frequency: 188.016kHz

Optimum tank capacitance: 0.0353uF

Primary diameter: 200mm
Wire thickness: 10mm
Turn spacing: 8mm
Number of turns: 7



Now if no one can see any obvious flaws in the design, i'll start part collecting and give it a shot. Now I want to build an MMC however living in Australia makes it really difficult to get the proper caps so ebay is really my only hope as far as I know. There are many different types, polyethylene, ceramic disc, polystyrene, doorknob etc...

I noticed http://cgi.ebay.com.au/6-x-0-47uF-2kV-4700pF-2000V-High-Voltage-Film-Capacitor_W0QQitemZ150207632557QQihZ005QQcategoryZ40113QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem are well priced but am not sure if they can handle sustained pulsing.

Anyway, thanks for listening and any feedback would be appreciated,

Cam.
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Coronafix
Mon Jan 21 2008, 08:39AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Hey Smiley, note that capacitance is the resonant capacitance, so you'd be best off
using 1.4-2 times that value.
For caps, I buy them from here Link2
not cheap but the proper thing.
Type in ER - Capacitor, Polypropylene Film, High dV/dt, 3000v
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Smiley
Mon Jan 21 2008, 09:21AM
Smiley Registered Member #1249 Joined: Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:18AM
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Thanks goldsphere, that website is great, its cheaper than buying the same Cornell-Dubilier caps from overseas. Only problem is I dont have an ABN so cant register :S
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Cain
Mon Jan 21 2008, 02:23PM
Cain Registered Member #624 Joined: Tue Apr 03 2007, 07:50AM
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i could help you out there my folks have a electronics repair busness and thy used to deal with RS im sure i can get some caps for you (although my folks will want a small mark up)
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Smiley
Mon Jan 21 2008, 06:49PM
Smiley Registered Member #1249 Joined: Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:18AM
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thanks Cain, but I think i've worked it out. You have to give an ABN if opening an account however, by registering, you dont have to and can still add your payment details and address.
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Coronafix
Mon Jan 21 2008, 09:36PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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I bought some caps some time back without an ABN so I know it works just fine.
If you later get into building SSTCs then they also have all the things like mosfet drivers
and the like too.
Can I ask you why you chose 0.7mm wire for the secondary?
I would have gone about 0.4mm
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Smiley
Tue Jan 22 2008, 05:53AM
Smiley Registered Member #1249 Joined: Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:18AM
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I think I chose 7mm because I had read somewhere that its not best to use higher than 22 guage. However if you think its ok, i'll use a smaller mm cable. Just means a few re-calculations.

Hey, I just realised your from Melbourne, what area you from?
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Wolfram
Tue Jan 22 2008, 07:18AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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In spark gap coils, it seems best to stay around 1000 turns on the secondary, so I see no good reason to use thinner wire.
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Coronafix
Tue Jan 22 2008, 08:49AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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I think about 1100-1200 turns is good. You could use 0.5mm wire and
get a couple hundred extra turns with it.
I'm in Preston, but soon moving to the country, and giving the city the flick.
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Smiley
Tue Jan 22 2008, 09:59AM
Smiley Registered Member #1249 Joined: Mon Jan 21 2008, 07:18AM
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sweet, it would be worth it for the extra turns. I cant wait to start my project. Ha, my missus lives in reservoir, neighbours.
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