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Improved single transistor flyback driver

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Mads Barnkob
Sun May 18 2008, 02:58PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I have used a capacitor as low as 10nF and it made it behave well crazy, very flickering streamers that screamed.

you should be able to drive it without diode, i did that while experimenting.
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dingo27
Sun May 18 2008, 06:05PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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one question - can anybody push the upper "cylinder" on 2n3055 ??? because i can and i think that was impossible with other TO3 transistors...

i can push it downward maybe 2-3 mm ...
with su169 i was cooling it that on upper cylinder was a iron strip and pushing it more to cooler, and it was never any sign of pushing on transistor when i removed it.

//i know that heatsink is on bottom, i was just using bar so transisor could be strongly mounted to cooler
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Berni
Sun May 18 2008, 07:04PM
Berni Registered Member #1132 Joined: Mon Nov 19 2007, 06:15PM
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I never had such a case. But there are a lot of fake 2N3055s out there that have a red partnumber on it, those are fake. It should be black
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun May 18 2008, 07:58PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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The upper metal "dome" on TO3 is not really meant to be "pushed", and the transistor is meant to be heatsinked on the bottom metal plate with the screw holes in it.
The dome is not enough thermally conductive for connecting to a heatsink.



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Mads Barnkob
Thu May 22 2008, 04:50PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I just put together a little movie with some of the recordings with my version of this flyback driver.

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Arcstarter
Thu May 22 2008, 06:14PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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MadsKaizer wrote ...



you should be able to drive it without diode, i did that while experimenting.
Well the diode is there to protect transistor.
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Spedy
Fri May 23 2008, 02:23AM
Spedy Registered Member #964 Joined: Wed Aug 22 2007, 12:39AM
Location: Stockton, CA
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Cool! I imagine this has been asked already, but does this work w/ modern flybacks? I wanna make sparks with this thing while I'm waiting for my 555 Driver parts to come in. Would the parts for this be available at Radioshack?
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Firefox
Fri May 23 2008, 02:38AM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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As many people have commented, you should be able to lash a bunch of parts together from the monitor board. I know thats where all the parts I used for my second one came from.
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quicksilver
Fri May 23 2008, 01:41PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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By "modern" I assume you mean those without a rectifier. Absolutely; it's works just fine. There are perhaps significant initial performance differences between the most basic original design of LOPT and the most common today - but you may find that the "modern" common ones often preform with differing & longer arcs! The issue is what use you are to put them to after you get them running. That's where the "older" type has some flexibility.

Firefox's idea is (IMO) the best way to go. You will learn and have on hand some of the most useful parts for this hobby. I continually tear into a varied collection of old items and now have a collection of materials that would actually cost several thousand dollars if I were to have bought them.

This hobby is actually FREE! If you continually look for the "sources", you'll have more than enough to have fun for years. Somewhere on the Forum, someone composed a list of sources existing of thrown away items and at last count there was over 20 pieces of "junk" that would give you everything that Radio Shack could never provide.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri May 23 2008, 02:01PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
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With my original driver and AC transformer I got something like 20KV (sparks igniting at 2cm), the modern potted transformers have usually 2x or more turns than the "old" type, so I can imagine 40+KV could be possible with this driver and some tunning. I actually wanted to try this but I am extremely lazy, maybe in a week or so I'll get to it.




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