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Small Tesla Coil using disposable camera transformers

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Voltwad
Thu Dec 18 2008, 06:51AM
Voltwad Registered Member #1829 Joined: Sun Nov 30 2008, 01:06AM
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Yeah, the brass is supposed to act as a ground plane. Because this is a battery powered coil, there's not any connection to the real world ground and without any ground plane the secondary capacitance is way too low. I suppose I could improve the energy characteristics by cutting a circle or some slits in the plane underneath the coil itself if I do another revision. As far as the breadboard goes, I haven't seen any problems on the HV side of the CW generator. The gap only fires at about 1.5 to 2 mm or less and I think the breadboard plastic has been handling that voltage pretty well. I think in the near future I might get some more cameras or possibly wind my own boost transformers for a 5 or 9 volt supply and get some custom PCBs made. Incidentally, I did a preliminary search for 'smallest tesla' hoping to find a thread for a smallest tesla coil competition and didn't see one. Has anyone seen anything like this around?
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Thu Dec 18 2008, 07:09AM
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smallest sstc:

Link2

smallest vttc
Link2


smallest sgtc i know of
Link2


although if you don't count the driver electronics, this one might have it beat
Link2

There were also a few small sgtc's made last year sometime, but I don't think any of them beat the linked coils.

edit - fixed vttc link
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Myke
Thu Dec 18 2008, 07:34AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Your smallest VTTC link doesn't go to ShaunLG's VTTC :P
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Jamil merali
Sat Jan 24 2009, 08:16PM
Jamil merali Registered Member #1577 Joined: Sun Jul 06 2008, 05:16PM
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why do you need the resistor at the end of the voltage multiplier.
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Killa-X
Sat Jan 24 2009, 08:57PM
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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I need to learn how to make a tesla coil.. I got an ignition coil, and over 50 camera circuits (5 in parallel on my coilgun) :(

Can I just wrap many layers of 24 guage magnet wire around a PVC 1-inch pipe for the 2nd coil? Or isnt it magnetic coil?

I'm kinda new to em xD
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Myke
Sun Jan 25 2009, 01:33AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Jamil merali wrote ...

why do you need the resistor at the end of the voltage multiplier.
So that the caps don't discharge into the load all at once. Also the more you load the multiplier, the less voltage you get out.
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Tesla C
Mon Jan 26 2009, 06:28AM
Tesla C Registered Member #1551 Joined: Wed Jun 18 2008, 06:21PM
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On your tutorial which cap are you referring to when you say the 1nF@600V on the flash board? I think your talking about the little grey or sometimes yellow ones, Am I right?
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Myke
Mon Jan 26 2009, 07:37AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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I think those are usually 22-33nF 330V caps, right?
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Tesla C
Mon Jan 26 2009, 02:10PM
Tesla C Registered Member #1551 Joined: Wed Jun 18 2008, 06:21PM
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Myke wrote ...

I think those are usually 22-33nF 330V caps, right?
Well the flash caps are rated at 330 and somewhere around 120µF. But as for the silver ones which can be seen in the picture i'am not sure what they are rated at. But maybe someone else can tell us what they are rated at.
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Zenador
Mon Jan 26 2009, 02:47PM
Zenador Registered Member #1733 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 03:17PM
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Tesla C wrote ...

Well the flash caps are rated at 330 and somewhere around 120µF. But as for the silver ones which can be seen in the picture i'am not sure what they are rated at. But maybe someone else can tell us what they are rated at.

The large flash caps are 300V to 330V, and 120uF to 160uF. The caps in the multiplier (yellow or silver) are 1nF @ 200V, or 1nF @ 400V (I have seen both the 200V and 400V varieties.) and are easily damaged. Excessive heat (from de-soldering and re-soldering) has caused breakdowns between the layers, which can then be seen arcing internally.

I couldn't find my specific part numbers online, so I took one to my electronics shop, found an equivalent cap (by package) and compared the identification. They are most likely identified like 103k200 which breaks down as (iirc):

1 = (capacitance in nF)
03 = multiplier factor
k = ?
200 = voltage

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