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Tom540
Sun Dec 16 2007, 07:29PM
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I would say that little toroid might be okay for a gate drive on a small sstc. I have a big H-bridge board from work that uses little toroid transformers for its gate drive and they are 17mm OD. They only have 6 turns trifilar on them and run at 100KHz. I think you'll just have to experiment. Just use thicker wire.


1197833340 487 FT35664 Gatedrive
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HDR
Tue Dec 18 2007, 07:51PM
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How critical is the value of the 470nF capacitors? I just realized I ordered the wrong part, and I can't get the 470nF locally. And what voltage rating is required for that cap? I can get some 250V 1.0uF caps easily.
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Marko
Wed Dec 19 2007, 12:09AM
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You guys definitely overkill regarding toroid core size - power is there tiny, and it's just the matter of fitting enough wire through it with good insulation.

I used 5 turns of mini coax cable on a tiny 10mm OD, 4mm tall toroid from CFL lamp and it worked well.
I later used a larger toroid just to fit better insulated wire in it, and that one is a 15mm OD and like 15mm tall.

The huge toroids like you guys use are hard to come by here, anyone who has them saves them for power transformers (usable for 100's of watts at frequencies we use them in SSTC's).

DRSSTC's driven with 30V need double secondary turns so larger core must be used, or two smaller separate transformers. and etc.


I also notice too much of you use a way overkill numbers of turns - make sure you calculate the minimum number of turns by following thedatastream's site. Apart from being able to use smaller core you'l have better performance!
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Tom540
Wed Dec 19 2007, 01:24AM
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Marko wrote ...

You guys definitely overkill regarding toroid core size - power is there tiny, and it's just the matter of fitting enough wire through it with good insulation.

I used 5 turns of mini coax cable on a tiny 10mm OD, 4mm tall toroid from CFL lamp and it worked well.
I later used a larger toroid just to fit better insulated wire in it, and that one is a 15mm OD and like 15mm tall.

The huge toroids like you guys use are hard to come by here, anyone who has them saves them for power transformers (usable for 100's of watts at frequencies we use them in SSTC's).

DRSSTC's driven with 30V need double secondary turns so larger core must be used, or two smaller separate transformers. and etc.


I also notice too much of you use a way overkill numbers of turns - make sure you calculate the minimum number of turns by following thedatastream's site. Apart from being able to use smaller core you'l have better performance!

I agree Marko, the only problem is if you don't have the specs on the core you're going to use you cant calculate anything you have to just experiment and use your best judgment. I dropped my standard 15 turns down to 7 which could still be overkill since my cores are about 1.2" OD.
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uzzors2k
Wed Dec 19 2007, 10:06AM
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You can make assumptions and measurements. For most ferrites flux density should be between 0.2 and 0.3T, and cross-sectional area only takes basic math to calculate from measurements. You'd be surprised how few turns you can get away with, I sometimes want to add more just to make the GDT look better. cheesey
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HDR
Fri Dec 21 2007, 03:36PM
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This is driving me crazy... I have a second order of 2 or 3 parts, including my MOSFETs that was shipped out on the 10th, its been 11 DAYS!! and its still not here mad they better not have lost my most expensive package...
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Ultra7
Fri Dec 21 2007, 04:31PM
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Bah, prolly just Santa's elves jambing up the shipping lanes with presents for the good lil boys and girls.
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Steve Conner
Fri Dec 21 2007, 04:45PM
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Congratulations, you win this year's Most Useless First Post award. Welcome to 4hv.org!
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Ultra7
Sat Dec 22 2007, 01:52AM
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Egad!
It's December 21st and close to the end of the year, and mine is the worst?
I was just trying to be funny. cheesey
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HDR
Sat Dec 22 2007, 09:37PM
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Looks like the project is going to be delayed until after christmas, since the post office seems to have lost my parts, that were supposed to be here A WEEK AGO mistrust
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