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Inducktion
Mon Jan 21 2013, 09:25PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Well, yeah they're going to be bright... It's a lot of power being put into that arc!

That and it's also sort of welding...
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teravolt
Tue Jan 22 2013, 04:21AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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if you can find 2 carbon rods and use them as your electrodes you can make a arc lamp that will burn at 1000c or at least to melt metals and ceramics. caution extreamly bright.
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2Spoons
Tue Jan 22 2013, 04:32AM
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I'd be more emphatic than daedronus: welding type eye protection is essential equipment.
Do not take chances with your eyes.
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Newton Brawn
Thu Jan 24 2013, 12:22AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Dr Dark Current:

Your circuit, what could be the the result if you replace the 50mF capacitor with a 50~~ 200 ohm ballast ?
The ballast may be a primary of a microwave oven transformer, the core as to be open separating the "E" core from the "I' core. The gap between the "E" and "I" may be adjusted from 0.1 to 5mm.

The equivalent circuit of a buzz box match with your circuit ....


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Newton Brawn
Fri Jan 25 2013, 01:27PM
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zippotix
Fri Jan 25 2013, 07:09PM
zippotix Registered Member #5208 Joined: Thu Jun 07 2012, 06:12PM
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Dr.DC, would cap of this sort work Link2 ? Supposedly they're used in cars, refrigerators, various pumps, etc. Oh, and could you reupload the vid, if you have it, of course?
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Jan 25 2013, 07:55PM
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The cap would work, after all it has AC written on it... BTW on 120 volts you will need 4x higher capacitance for the same output power. I don't know if I have the vid, it is really long ago and it was pretty lame so I removed it.
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zippotix
Sun Jan 27 2013, 04:51PM
zippotix Registered Member #5208 Joined: Thu Jun 07 2012, 06:12PM
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Hey Newton, I couldn't get the 50uF cap, so I used a kettle heating element instead and it works. The arc is really bright!
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Newton Brawn
Wed Jan 30 2013, 03:03AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Congratulations !
Do not forget to run the kettle with water inside. And use the water to make a nice tea... It the Green Planet Philosophy.
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zippotix
Wed Jan 30 2013, 12:13PM
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I've got it from disassembled kettle, so it's just the heating element (coil). Anyway, I got 50uF cap, and it works even better. Arc sounds like a MOT, but is much hotter. It melts nails in seconds, burns through metal containers like nothing. Don't do it near flammable stuff, lol.
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