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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Thu Dec 06 2007, 11:23PM
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The reason not to use a tube rectifier like 5AU4 or similar is that Hammond doesn't always put a 5V winding on the power transformer. Then you have to scramble for a 5V 4A transformer and they just aren't that common now. Of course you might say "well just tap off the 6.3V winding" Well no, its not that simple. You need 1A/ 6L6 or EL34 and with a lot of preamp tubes the current adds up fast too.

To get the 'sag' of a rectifier tube you would be able to use a 30-50R power resistor after the rectifier bridge and use the transformer without the 5V winding.

Otherwise you just buy the transformer with the 6.3V and 5V winding.
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EDY19
Sat Dec 08 2007, 12:00AM
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What ways do you use to limit inrush current into the capacitors when using diodes? I always find myself in a bind when building power supplies, because the inrush is so great. Hamfest is comin up though, it'll be my first one, i'm pretty excited:-)
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ShawnLG
Sat Dec 08 2007, 06:31AM
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"In my opinion I think hybrid designs are much cooler."

I have repaired a modern tube amp for someone and it was a hybrid. There was few diodes, transistors and an, IC. I was thinking about a hybrid design, so I would have the best of both worlds. My micro VTTC is definitely a hybrid. ;)

"Hamfest is comin up though, it'll be my first one, i'm pretty excited:-)"

Be prepaired to have a nerdgasm, and bring lots of money.
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Steve Conner
Sat Dec 08 2007, 05:06PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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ShawnLG wrote ...

Be prepaired to have a nerdgasm, and bring lots of money.

Lol cheesey

I thought I better mention a few things:

You can't connect the heater of a rectifier tube to the same heater supply as all the other tubes. It will cause a tubesplosion. Except for a few indirectly heated rectifiers with extra-strong heater-cathode insulation like the EZ80.

I've never needed to use inrush current limiting on tube amp power supplies. The winding resistance of the P.T. seems to take care of it, though if I ever build this 300 watt monster, it may be a different story!

I also like hybrids, my first amp used op-amps in the EQ and a MOSFET regulated B+. This one will be all tube though, apart from the rectifier diodes and panel LEDs...
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EDY19
Sat Dec 08 2007, 07:26PM
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I was already planning on bringing lots of money cheesey I think my main objective is going to be finding a 115V : 240V >120VA transformer, and I'll keep an eye out for some cool caps and tubes smile I'm pretty excited though, just have to get through exams first, however I got 100% on my last physics one, so I'm not toooo worried about that one smile
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ShawnLG
Wed Dec 12 2007, 05:10AM
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After doing some research on tube distortion. A tube amp would squeeze the top of the sinewave when driven into saturation. A logarithmic amplifier can do the same "squeezing" effect. I have built my own tube effect circuit using all silicone. Some Tube FX boxes out there uses a simular ciruit such as the Ibanez Tube Screamer.

The "tube" distortion sounds very clean without any intermodulation. It also has good sustain.

Yay for silicon!


mod edit: 400pxplz kthx
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Steve Conner
Sun Dec 16 2007, 10:59PM
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Nice work ShawnLG, but does it smell like tubes too? wink

Anyway, progress has been slow, I'm busy at work, but I got the LED lighting working today... I think I hear Leo Fender spinning in his grave! cheesey

BTW, this is my 2001th post - open the pod bay doors, Chris!
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Marko
Mon Dec 17 2007, 12:26AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Steve, that looks MEAN. suprised
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Carbon_Rod
Mon Dec 17 2007, 01:41AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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Nice project,

Also done a few amp repairs for some people over the years. Some musicians pay an extraordinary amount of money to keep the original sound of their instruments. The tube-amp can arguably be considered part of the instrument.

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Dalus
Mon Dec 17 2007, 01:30PM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
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That looks sick Steve amazed. Shawn, thanks for the circuit I will sure try it with my alsis ra 500 shades
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