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Vista - The best operating system ever ! ! !

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Alex
Fri Nov 09 2007, 09:04PM
Alex Geometrically Frustrated
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Bjørn Bæverfjord wrote ...

You people disappoint me. Are you really getting all your facts about the world from the comments at slashdot.org?

Try this for a start Link2



Sorry Bjorn, you're right, Microsoft introduced support for opengl in vista a while ago. kal brought that to my attention but I never updated my post.
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Conundrum
Sat Nov 17 2007, 09:22AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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found out how to get a command prompt in Vista. You right click on any folder while holding Shift, then select "Open command window here" LOL!


-A

"Bother" said Pooh, as the vortex dumped him 500 feet up..
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Simon
Mon Nov 19 2007, 12:54AM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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There's a hack for doing that on older versions of Windows. Back in the days when I was a Windows user (shudder) I used it (on Windows 98).
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Bjørn
Mon Nov 19 2007, 07:42AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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"Open Command Window Here": Link2

SyncToy is brilliant, RAW Image Thumbnailer is very good for those that need it, Image Resizer is extremely practical when you need a low resolution low quality version of a picture in a hurry.
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Tom540
Mon Nov 19 2007, 04:44PM
Tom540 Banned on 3/17/2009.
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Well I guess I'm not alone here. I hate windows Vista and all the worthless bloat.
There 50 ways to do everything I only need one simple way. I can't stand how it tries to do everything for you or it "knows whats best". I also can't stand how every time you run something it asks if you want it to run it as if someone else double clicked the shortcut etc.

The whole sleep mode screen saver thing drives me nutts as well and it either doesnt shutdown when i tell it to or it takes forever. The 3d windows view is totally worthless because it takes longer than just alt-tabbing.
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Bjørn
Mon Nov 19 2007, 05:26PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Ironically whining about it instead of doing something about it is even more useless than the features you whine about. Get off your behind and fix the problems and you will be a much happier person.

Try Oberon or RISC OS for some completely unbloated software. Even if it is not your own computer and you can't modify it you can run other operating systems either in a virtual machine or hosted natively under Vista.
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Tom540
Mon Nov 19 2007, 11:37PM
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I don't program and I don't work for MS. My solution is I don't use it. I do own a copy that I paid for so that gives me the right to whine. cheesey
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WaveRider
Tue Nov 20 2007, 06:47PM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
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I was not sure that I should weigh in with an opinion, but here goes!

My wife's Celeron laptop initally really struggled with Vista. It takes nearly 5 minutes to boot up with the default installation and she complained to me that it was almost unusable because anytime she wanted to start an application (like Skype or Firefox), it took forever to load. Furthermore, Skype would die incessantly because the poor Celeron could not keep up with VoIP networking and take care of its overhead...

Sooooo, to keep a long story short: I disabled as much of the unnecessary bloat as I could, leaving only networking and the core OS tasks.. Now it boots up in under a minute and when she wants to run Skype or the browser (which is 85% of her usage), it starts up almost immediately...and Skype does not drop out nearly as often.

The downside is that many of the multimedia drivers have been deactivated, so less of that functionality is readily available, but that is not too much of a problem. She is very happy now!

I personally use XP often and am pretty satisfied (only the occasional blue screen of death)... However, I am mostly a Linux fanboy and use it for most of my hard core simulation work! cheesey
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Bjørn
Tue Nov 20 2007, 09:45PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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How much RAM is there in the PC and did someone sell it configured like that? It sounds like it has 256 MB RAM or have Norton Internet Security installed. Either way have been conned since it should not take more than 30 seconds to boot for a PC that is suitable for Vista.
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WaveRider
Wed Nov 21 2007, 04:14PM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
Location: Hasselt, Belgium
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It has 1024MB of memory. I have heard that the Celeron is (anecdotally) not recommended for Vista.. The anecdotes proved more or less correct on this one.

You are right Bjorn. It should boot up quickly (as it does now with much of the junk disabled).

Why should it require 1024MB or more of RAM to run a browser, skype and perhaps a text editor? To me this seems an excessive waste of computer resources and is the main fault I see with Vista. They have tried to stuff so many "bells and whistles" into the system, it just falls over in "out of the box" default mode. If this is the case, all those hard-core gamers would need lord-knows-what type of supercharged machine to run a basic interactive game... All I want is just to get my wife's email to work..... PINE mail needs..what..100K of RAM to run?? The configurator for the setting up the email on Vista takes more than that!

I will rue the day when I have to retire my own dual boot XP/Fedora laptop (which runs just fine with 512MB of internal RAM.
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