If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #79
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 673
My cousin likes to pester me about it. I just tell him, "Yeah, people like me designed that TV you sit in front of all day."
I always feel really embarassed talking to most people about it because I feel like a total jerk explaining to them about things, 'cause I don't know where to start. I usually wind up sounding like I'm making up complicated words to sound smart or something...
Most of my frustration comes from the lack of excitement on other's part. I have nobody to share immediate excitement with that really understands what goes into it! "Wow! Look at the switching waveforms!!!" "...Yeah, ok. The squares are pretty. What does that mean?" Sigh. I wish some of you guys lived across the street, not even one person I have EVER met in person knows what a MOSFET is.
Registered Member #30
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Hmm, well if it helps, I felt the same at school as Firkragg did, and I agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread. Life got a lot happier when I left to study engineering at university, and now I actually get paid to geek around with computers and electronics all day, it's just great!
I don't expect Joe Public to understand what we do, but he should at least respect it. Where on earth does he think all these cool things like MP3 players, cell phones, PS3s, plasma TVs and cruise missiles come from? They are invented and designed by so-called "nerds" like us. If Joe Public doesn't like nerds, he should boycott high technology. I think the only real issue is that dumb people feel threatened by people smarter than them, and that is probably human nature and will never change.
One thing I noticed is that some people almost seem to revel in their nerd outlaw status. I don't necessarily think this is a good thing. GreySoul's comment about cooking meth is a case in point: why on earth would the cops search his house in the first place? Even if they did, what on earth would he have to worry about, considering that they wouldn't find any meth (I hope)? He's just trying to make the ownership of sodium and iodine look more glamorous than it is, and not exactly doing the geek cause any good.
Conundrum: You can buy IPA from Maplin, unless you meant India Pale Ale
Registered Member #135
Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
Location: Anywhere is fine
Posts: 1735
The more you explain something to someone who doesn't understand/know/care, the worse off you're going to be.
If you explain your interests to "outsiders" they're going to want to know more about you, then rumors spread, and then you have someon knocking on your door.
I hide everything in plain sight and everyone stopped asking questions, It's the way I prefer it. I don't get a lot of questions anymore, I just do what I do.
So overall, don't even try to explain, that only leads to controversy or something you don't want to talk about, or something that might be illegal.
Geometrically Frustrated Registered Member #6
Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 04:18AM
Location: Bowdoin, Maine
Posts: 373
I suppose that's one way to handle it..
I guess I've had it pretty easy. People may not always understand my motivation, but they've always expressed positive feelings about the things I do (as far as electronics/computers are concerned, anyway).
Registered Member #53
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 638
The guy next door allways looked a little nervous when I set up my 6inch coil in the back yard. He never asked if it was dangerous but he allways hid behind the screen door to watch.
Registered Member #32
Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
Location: Australia
Posts: 549
I had plenty of friends back at school but absolutely no one who could share my hobbies. When I got to university, I met a much more diverse bunch of people.
The Internet is great for people with minority hobbies.
Registered Member #50
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:07AM
Location: Vernon, B.C, Canada
Posts: 324
I think the more cocky or elitist you become about your hobbies, like telling people to "never mind" when they inquire about what you like to do, the worse off you are. Its when they feel inferior, rumors are spread and people treat you badly. I found the best thing to do is to just dumb it down for their sake, they find it novel or cool then leave you alone from there....or watch with bated breath for something to explode....
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.