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Bjørn

Mon May 28 2007, 04:23AM

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The point is that you don't know why he was up there. You heard a rumour that started as a guess.

Simon made a point in a gentle manner. I am going to formulate it more clearly.

Making racist, narrow-minded and crude comments without possessing any knowledge is what racist, narrow-minded and crude bigots do. It might be fun and entertaining, but it is also pathetic and immensely primitive.

Madgyver

Mon May 28 2007, 09:12AM

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Where I come from, copper theft is a common practice to get some money. It very often happens in places were people are incredibly poor and suffer from starvation.

ragnar

Mon May 28 2007, 02:10PM

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That doesn't make it OK.

GreySoul

Mon May 28 2007, 02:59PM

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THATS what I'm saying.

I admit, I DON'T know what he was doing up there

But it doesn't matter. Even if he went up there to get a better view of his front yard, it doesn't matter. You do NOT climb utility poles uninvited. They're not your property. There's nothing up there for you. LEAVE IT ALONE.

He broke THAT rule, and got punished for it.

If he broke law trying to steel copper or not, it just doesn't matter.

Idiots who climb utility poles and get electrocuted have it coming. If that's rude or insensitive then you can label me a jerk... but that's my opinion on it.

If someone can offer me a valid excuse for why _ANYONE_, not just this guy, would climb up a utility pole and mess with the HV wires I'd love to hear it, but I don't think I'll agree.

...I just don't see the tragedy in stupid people doing equally stupid things that results in death or dismemberment. Sad for the family, yes, and I can understand their grief.... but the rest of us....

I just shake my head, and hope it doesn't happen again...

-Doug

Madgyver

Mon May 28 2007, 06:12PM

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BlackPlasma wrote ...

That doesn't make it OK.

That's not What I am saying.

I just want to point out, that most times when people steal copper from such lines, they know what they are dealing with and are not stupid pranksters who thinks its cool to steal.

@greysoul:
I don't call people Jerks, just because they don't know what they are talking about.

You know, being forced by hunger to do such risky things has nothing to do with being stupid or not. Its just tragedy. You know what's stupid? Living is prosperty and calling people from 3. world countries stupid for trying to get food for there family. That's what i call stupid.

I don't say, that this particular guy did this because he needed food, but in most parts of the world thats the case.

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Mon May 28 2007, 06:33PM

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I have tried to stay out of this, but...
I don't care if your kid is dying and you need money for its pills, steeling copper wires (or anything for that matter) is not an acceptable solution.

When you consider the costs (copper wire is way more expensive than copper scrap, it costs a ton to install it, the lost fare for the trains that were not running until they fixed it, etc) and the time wasted from people that wanted to use that wire I might almost venture to say that someone that steels copper ground wire deserves to be electrocuted. Heck, if steeling a song (that didn't cost the artist/label anything) is worth 300000euros and a few years in jail...

Madgyver

Mon May 28 2007, 06:55PM

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Again, I didn't say that stealing ANYTHING is okay. I just want to point out that some people in some part of the world have bigger problems then to decide if the should super size their McD. menue or not.

Just consider that before stating shit like :"haha, that guy died because he was stupid and deserves it. I like HV. I'm so smart and I rule."

Bjørn

Mon May 28 2007, 08:19PM

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If someone can offer me a valid excuse for why _ANYONE_, not just this guy, would climb up a utility pole and mess with the HV wires I'd love to hear it, but I don't think I'll agree.

1. He might have been told to go up there to repair something.
2. The education system has failed completely and he did not know there was anything dangerus up there (There is some evidence for that in the comments on the news site).
3. He might not be able to understand that there is somethig dagerous up there and whoever put up the poles are likely responsible for what happened.

I might almost venture to say that someone that steels copper ground wire deserves to be electrocuted.

I am almost 100% certain that by using an extremist point of view I can name at least one way you would deserve to be terminated. So if you approve of such logic you also imply that you yourself have a tendency to do things that makes you deserve death. That raises some interesting and serious questions.

HV Enthusiast

Mon May 28 2007, 08:47PM

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wrote ...

Idiots who climb utility poles and get electrocuted have it coming. If that's rude or insensitive then you can label me a jerk... but that's my opinion on it.

So you would also agree that if a young child (who also doesn't know the dangers) climbs a fence into the lion's cage at the zoo, also deserves to die for breaking the rules there?

The culpits certaintly don't deserve death for their alleged crime, but on the otherhand, i don't feel sorry for them either.

Coronafix

Mon May 28 2007, 11:02PM

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I heard he was trying to rescue an old lady's cat.

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