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Sun Mar 25 2007, 11:57PM Print
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Ok guys, I am having some trouble with this one...

With my lasers, I am doing mirror alignement, and I want to glue the mirrors down (as mounts are big and have a tendency to walk over time)

So, I need some glue that will harden rock hard, and harden when I want it to. Unles someone has a great alternative, I am thinking UV cure is the way to go, especually considering that I already have a uv source for curing epoxy smile

In any case, I have searched through a few manufactures site, but invariably they all have their catalog hidden behind a ton of useless catagories, so I couldn't really find anything that was being marked as 'cures rock solid' and couldn't find anything with a datasheet that had any value that seemed relevant.

In any case, I was wondering if any of you guys know where I can get a small (100c syringe would probably last me well past the expiration date) amount of really hard uv cure epoxy?

Also, I need it to shrink as little as possible as it cures, the stuff I had was like 3% shrinkage, so it walked the beam as it cured. I can account for that (cure both sides at once should do for now) but I mainly need it to be stable after it cures.

I know the stuff exists, most commercial lasers are made using it...

Thanks!
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Michael W.
Mon Mar 26 2007, 12:13AM
Michael W. Registered Member #50 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:07AM
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This is all ebay had...

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"It gels in 30 seconds, curing in 3 minutes but only when exposed to sunlight or artificial UV light such as a suntan light."

This probably isn't what your looking for...

EDIT: Just found this;
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Mon Mar 26 2007, 02:13AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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The stuff on ebay is not what I am looking for, if I knew the correct product to be using from a large company (loctite?) I could probably get it from mcmaster.

Although it would be great if I could sample it tongue
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Steve Conner
Mon Mar 26 2007, 11:54AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Hi ...

We actually make precision optical assemblies with epoxy at work. We use a ceramic loaded UV cure epoxy called Optocast 3410. It's stupidly expensive.
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Mon Mar 26 2007, 03:08PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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Thats the stuff I am looking for smile

But, how expensive are we talking? Like $1/ml, $100/ml? And an idea where I could buy a resonable quantity of it?

Or, you wouldn't happen to have an expired tube laying arround tongue
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ragnar
Tue Mar 27 2007, 01:13AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Go with Acrifix -- polymerizes under UV, starts clear, finishes clear. Bonds nicely to most acrylics, polycarbonates...
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Tue Mar 27 2007, 04:13AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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hmm, the only Acrifix I could find is a solvent weld glue for plexiglass, which I don't think would work too well for holding a glass optic to an aluminum mount (especially considering that the packaging materials are listed as glass/aluminum)
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ragnar
Tue Mar 27 2007, 07:03AM
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Woops -- my apologies, thought you were looking for UV-curing glue for plastic optics.. :S
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Steve Conner
Tue Mar 27 2007, 11:08AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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It is about $200 per 10ml.
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Tue Mar 27 2007, 02:13PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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yikes, that is a little out of my price range. Maybe I should wait till I go back to Ortel and beg them for some tongue I know they use that kind of stuff by the gallon (and throw 1/2 of it away when it expires)

But for the next 3 months,
I wonder if I could DIY it? Like take the normal cheep stuff and mix it with some fine powder of some sort? glass microshperes? Or aluminum powder? Talcum powder?
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