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Who was more important Edison or Tesla?

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Bjørn
Mon Mar 12 2007, 12:25AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Bjoern, if you want to be a genius solve one of these. (Or go with these instead.)
That illustrates my point very well. Ask some random people who Grigori Perelman is, if your selection is random you should have no realistic chance of getting a hit.

No average person is ever going to care about "...every closed simply connected three-manifold is homeomorphic to the three-sphere. Here, the three-sphere (in a topologist's sense) is simply a generalization of the familiar two-dimensional sphere (i.e., the sphere embedded in usual three-dimensional space and having a two-dimensional surface) to one dimension higher. More colloquially, Poincaré conjectured that the three-sphere is the only possible type of bounded three-dimensional space that contains no holes."

A lightbulb on the other hand everyone intuitively understands the importance of the moment they see it in action.

Yes there are infinitely many problems left to solve the requires genius but many of the easy ones have been mined out and they are getting so abstract that no one really cares about them. So you would have to do more complicated work but would get less recognition.
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Bored Chemist
Mon Mar 12 2007, 06:38PM
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Those maths problems are interesting enough but I think a true genius answers problems nobody thought of before. Anyway Here's a more pertinent problem. Will this thread actually change any-body's opinion of Edison or Tesla?
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Ben
Tue Apr 17 2007, 03:47PM
Ben Vigilatny
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Bjørn Bæverfjord wrote ...

Yes there are infinitely many problems left to solve the requires genius but many of the easy ones have been mined out and they are getting so abstract that no one really cares about them. So you would have to do more complicated work but would get less recognition.

Well then you just have to use one of these abstract things to do something useful, if you wish to be remembered by the masses. I'm betting relatively few people know who Euler was too, but he probably stands above both Edison and Tesla.

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Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) Switzerland

Euler made decisive contributions in all areas of mathematics. He gave the world modern trigonometry. Just as Archimedes extended Euclid's geometry to marvelous heights, so Euler took marvelous advantage of the analysis of Newton and Leibniz. He probably discovered the calculus of variations first, but modestly let Lagrange take the credit. He is universally regarded as the most prolific mathematician in history and the best algorist. His colleagues called him ``Analysis Incarnate.'' He was supreme at discrete mathematics, as well as continuous: He invented graph theory and generating functions.

Euler combined his brilliance with phenomenal concentration. He developed the first method to estimate the Moon's orbit (the ``three-body problem'' which had stumped Newton), and he settled an arithmetic dispute involving 50 decimal places of a long convergent series. Both these feats were accomplished when he was totally blind.

As a young man, Euler discovered and proved the following:
pi2/6 = 1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + 1/25 + ...
This striking identity catapulted Euler to instant fame, since the right-side infinite sum was a famous unsolved problem of the day.
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HV Enthusiast
Tue Apr 17 2007, 10:10PM
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wrote ...

but he probably stands above both Edison and Tesla.

BLASPHEMY! No one stands above Tesla!!!!!!
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Vaxian
Tue Apr 17 2007, 10:41PM
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Hmmmm. Reckord Player, the whole system for providing AC power to the world and a really groovy homeade lightning machine....................................

I realize Edison invented more than the Reckord Player, but look at it this way, the modern reckord player, light bulb wouldn't even work without inventions and ideas came up with by Tesla.

Hmmmm, er, uhm, Tesla?

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