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Xenon arc lamp as a spark gap for TC

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Plasma Lover
Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:39PM
Plasma Lover Registered Member #1911 Joined: Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:30PM
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LithiumLord wrote ...

Do NOT EVEN THINK of getting those, especially used ones - not to say never try anything with those besides watching a movie in a theatre ;)


Why not get them? Have you ever experimented with one? If not, then what is your reasoning?
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High pressure krypton arc lamps are known to explode in pulsed duty, sending glass shrapnel everywhere. Building it in a secure box might help, but doesn't fix the issue that this project would be akin to using the nichrome wire out of a toaster to wind your primary with since it can handle getting hot without issues tongue
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Apr 04 2009, 04:39PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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They also explode when not handled properly, and that means even a little "touch" with a hard surface may cause it to explode.

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mikeselectricstuff
Tue Apr 07 2009, 11:43PM
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Standard attire when replacing those 15kw lamps in projectors is facemask and ull body armour.
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3D-Meier
Tue Apr 14 2009, 05:51PM
3D-Meier Registered Member #1997 Joined: Wed Feb 25 2009, 07:11PM
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I think also xenon short arc lamps are not useful as a sparkgap. For the high pressure you need a high voltage. The ignition voltage of my 1600 W lamp ist 36 kV. I test it with my 8 kV neon transformer and nothing happens. With a 30 kV voltage transformer I get sparcs.

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Of course they are dangerous, you must wear protection clothes.

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In this lamp (7000 W) there are no sparcs between the electrodes, there are long sparcs inside along the glass bulb.

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An interesting effect.

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Proud Mary
Tue Apr 14 2009, 09:17PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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So far as I understand it, short-arc high pressure xenon lamps typically require about 50 - 60VDC, after the discharge has been initiated by an HT starter pulse of 25 - 50kV, but some have steady voltages as low as 18V or 20VDC. A constant current supply is needed to prevent thermal runaway.

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