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Patrick
Thu Jan 21 2016, 08:16PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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in any case lets stick with the push/pull topology.

I'm laying the board out now. it will be simpler but ill still need a 60Hz transformer to power the logic side.
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Patrick
Thu Jan 28 2016, 05:42AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Here's the heat sink prototypes. I have bogus transistors for viewing and scale.


1453959738 2431 FT174221 Hs1

1453959738 2431 FT174221 Hs2
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DerAlbi
Thu Jan 28 2016, 12:45PM
DerAlbi Registered Member #2906 Joined: Sun Jun 06 2010, 02:20AM
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The rough surface is a nightmare. I dont know if sil-pads will be able to close the gaps.. polish it! smile
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Patrick
Thu Jan 28 2016, 07:22PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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its not rough at all, but ill smooth it with some finer orbit sanding.
I'm wanting the large one to dissipate 8 watts. so 2 x 4 =8.
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Patrick
Sat Mar 19 2016, 02:05AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Getting going again, gonna etch a new board soon.


1458353120 2431 FT174221 Case1
Ive brazed two electrical boxes together and drilled holes.


1458353120 2431 FT174221 Case2
ive got the 120 VAC plug going in, and various colors coming it out.


1458353120 2431 FT174221 Case3
Eventually this circuit board will fit inside, its too large at the moment. It will also have a color label with specs.
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hen918
Sat Mar 19 2016, 09:59AM
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I like your metal backbox design, I might have to do that myself. Inexpensive and it already has tapped holes for a lid...
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Patrick
Sat Mar 19 2016, 07:18PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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hen918 wrote ...

I like your metal backbox design, I might have to do that myself. Inexpensive and it already has tapped holes for a lid...
you can cut and braze them together for the internal volume you need, like Legos you can make odd shapes too. I tapped the 6-32 fine threads out to 10-24 coarse threads.
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Patrick
Fri Dec 29 2017, 04:35AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Ok getting this thread started again, ive got new components and more time.

here are some examples ive been looking at :


1514522123 2431 FT174221 Ble Smps

1514522123 2431 FT174221 Ble Smps2


That cropped last one is the feedback circuit im going to closly copy. ill use the PS2561-1 opto and tl431 as DerAlbi suggested.
Ive learned enough from that clumsy etched prototype that ill be moving on to a professional board house as soon as the regulating and feed back are reliably figured out.
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Patrick
Mon Jan 08 2018, 05:01AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Heres a new circuit that caught my attention.


1515387711 2431 FT174221 Tl431 Schem


This one uses a seperate Opto power supply than what its regulating. Thats really useful, since i want a generic circuit whos values can be modded for many power supplies i build. Many voltages from 12 to 2kV and different types switching methods.

So the error sample is now somewhat isolated and less loaded.

But im not sure what the arrangements of RC elements do.

So now in the next few days im going to build on a perf board a prototype a battery powered test circuit with a potentiometer to measure response. It will measure only DC response, but will get some of the opto values pinned down too.

I have access to really sophisticated Network analyzers if that helps later on.
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hen918
Mon Jan 08 2018, 07:33PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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Where are you getting the 12V from? if it's on your input side you'll loose all isolation, and if it's on the output, what guarantees it's at 12V? It seems like a very strange circuit when all you need to do usually to change between voltages is change a resistor value or two as part of the potential divider on the output, making the extra supply rather redundant.

If you want to know more about the RC network, have a look at TI's brilliant datasheet for the UCC28950: Link2 The application information is on page 35 onward.
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