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Patrick
Wed Nov 12 2014, 09:50AM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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if i have a battery rated for 6 Ah how long can i run a 5.6 amp load.

3600 seconds per hour X 6 Ah = 21,600
21,600 / 5.6 A = 3,857 As
3,857 / 3,600 = 1.07 x 60 min = 64 min of operation.

is this right?
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TwirlyWhirly555
Wed Nov 12 2014, 10:16AM
TwirlyWhirly555 Registered Member #4104 Joined: Fri Sept 23 2011, 06:54PM
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If this helps I did it this way and got the same answer , LiPo 1C 6Ah .

(6000mAh/1000) / 5.6A = 1.07 .

1.07*60 = 64.2 minuets .

That would be over the full capacity .
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Shrad
Wed Nov 12 2014, 10:20AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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I wouldn't have done any math... 5.6A is close enough to 6A with some losses and theoretical battery capacity to say one hour

keep it simple ;)
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Sulaiman
Wed Nov 12 2014, 01:53PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Just to be awkward;
the math is correct but many battery types are rated at 20 hour discharge rate (gentle)
at heavier discharge rates the capacity is less.
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Dr. Slack
Wed Nov 12 2014, 01:55PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Patrick wrote ...

if i have a battery rated for 6 Ah how long can i run a 5.6 amp load.

3600 seconds per hour X 6 Ah = 21,600
21,600 / 5.6 A = 3,857 As
3,857 / 3,600 = 1.07 x 60 min = 64 min of operation.

is this right?

No

And it all depends on what 'rated' means, and the battery chemistry.

If your rated capacity is at the 1C rate, that is, specified for a one hour discharge, then without doing any sums, it's obviously more or less right, as Shrad points out.

If however you have a lead acid battery which is rated at the 20 hour rate, or 0.05C, then drawing the 1C rate would give you nothing like that capacity.

All batteries lose deliverable capacity as the discharge rate rises, some chemistries lose it faster than others.

Ouch, collided with Suliaman in the door there!
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mister_rf
Wed Nov 12 2014, 03:58PM
mister_rf Registered Member #4465 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:37AM
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"Peukert's formula" = the formula for calculating how long a battery will really last.
T = C / ( I exp n )
where
C is theoretical capacity (in amp-hours, equal to actual capacity at one amp)
I is current (in amps)
T is time (in hours)
and n is the Peukert number for the battery.

The Peukert's exponent range from 1.1 to 1.3 shows how well the battery holds up under high rates of discharge.
details here:
Link2
Online calculator:
Link2
Link2
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Sulaiman
Wed Nov 12 2014, 04:53PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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must admit, I'd never heard of "Peukert's formula" ... interesting.
Problem is, battery manufacturers do not give Peukert's values.

The BEST thing to do is get a datasheet for your battery
and look at the graphs for your specific discharge rate.
Most manufacturers publish in-depth datasheets.
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Dr. Slack
Wed Nov 12 2014, 05:07PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Hmm! According to that link, Peukert's formula does not account for temperature, is inaccurate at low and high discharge rates, and has to be derived from the curves in data sheets. By the time you've avoided all the caveats, you're better off just interpolating between the curves directly by eye.
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Patrick
Wed Nov 12 2014, 08:44PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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My battery is rated for 6.6 Ah at 1 to 3C discharge.
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Dr. Slack
Wed Nov 12 2014, 09:03PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Patrick wrote ...

My battery is rated for 6.6 Ah at 1 to 3C discharge.

then your math is right
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