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Conundrum
Fri May 30 2014, 04:58AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Here's a thought, can memes generate AI directly?
I mean, a "memetic amplifier" could be thought of as a form of cellular automata, so something based on this on a nanoscopic scale is functionally equivalent to the way the brain is theorised to work.
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Carbon_Rod
Fri May 30 2014, 07:10AM
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Upon typing in circular meme logic, a program called cat spawned another file called cat.txt with the contents reading “cat”.
echo cat | cat > cat.txt ; cat cat.txt ;
In the strict sense it is already on 52% of the Internet servers.

I'm not saying your statement sounds like you would know about tuna logic, but I fear google already reports 110,000,000 results for "cats" and 79,700,000 results for "humans". Assuming 1 unique cat for every page posted... they already have humans outnumbered.
wink

Memes are unstoppable, an extensive proof was posted for peer review:
Link2
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Conundrum
Sat May 31 2014, 06:14AM
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I still say that Bitcoin (BTc) is actually a classified experiment into AI using all those parallel processors as a primitive-but-effective neural net.

The inventor has stayed silent since 2011, because he is aware of this and is actually working undercover for the US military who are in the process of using the data thus gained to build a 2nd gen AI.
ie machines designing machines.

Would make sense, the algorithm to actually decide which BTc is valid is secret but apparently "non random and post quantum" which suggests an AI might be responsible.
Using all those surplus graphics cards as well as custom chips as a heuristic algorithm based NN would make sense as unbeknown to the user quantum interactions within the chips could be encoded in the output and later reassembled.

My work with high power magnets and memory chips suggests that under certain conditions a 64GB or larger TLC chip can "go quantum" and bits of the memory can act like qubits at low temperatures.
Either on their own won't do it but cold + magnetic field seems to do something interesting.

-A
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Carbon_Rod
Sat May 31 2014, 11:09PM
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Most chip designers plights are due to the quantum tunneling effect. If you have found a way to suppress this semiconductor size limitation, then your method could allow a sub-10nm cell process.
i.e. your IP holding company could be a billionaire in a few years, and with proof I'll likely invest $10 grand for you to get the US patent started. wink

Link2 was anonymous, as it is illegal to print your own currency in many places.

Money is by definition a promissory note from governments guaranteeing the safe tender or valuation of productivity in gold or silver. The Reserve converted this concept into one of a speculative credit system, and we all know how well that works out. Without inflationary controls on interest rates, devaluation of the currency or asset holdings is assured.
i.e. a billionaire owning several companies and the real estate with holding companies is more resilient to market fluctuations than a room full of clowns with little understating of macroeconomics, technology, or Ponzi schemes.

Accordingly, if you hypothetically do have fully mined coins sitting in a research project from a few years back. Technically it is illegal not to pay capital gains tax on the annual valuation of said assets. Talk with your commercial accountant and corporate lawyer... or you are likely getting robbed via your own ignorance.

Advice: Start investing while you're young, put your money in conservative well established company stocks under a retirement fund shelter, and 7% into low-risk bond-heavy mutual funds. Remember when it comes time to buy a home, you can borrow against your retirement fund shelter and pay back yourself at a rate of a few thousand a year tax free. Yet you should still wait 5 years, the high water mark is dropping as the baby-boomers start to expire, and if you buy a house that costs more than 35% of your income you will be poor the rest of your life. Note: real estate flipping is not investing, but gambling for the greedy.
Remember some places tax on residency... not citizenship, and if you live someplace too long you may be subject to their exorbitant income tax rates. Never trust investment advisors at banks, most are ignorant of tax laws or outright liars trying to get you to take debt products, bad insurance deals, or unnecessary investment risks. So cross check with more than a few experts prior to purchasing a product. They will try to sell you loan consolidations (ruin your credit), life insurance (rob your savings through a bogus tax loop hole), or debt payment insurance (unregulated, and rarely has anyone actually documented a successful claim).

Finally, start a holding corporation even if you're an independent research facility (the lawyer should cost a 500 to 1000 dollars). The cost of consumables are a tax write off, equipment devaluation is a write off, and capital gains tax rates are lower than income tax. The income you pay yourself ("draw") should reflect the minimum living allowance plus the deduction of student loans, medical insurance, and so on...


If the US credit registration act passes... or you pay over a few hundred in property tax...
Vote with your feet...
Immigrate to Japan, and spend no more then a few months in any country over a given year.
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Conundrum
Sun Jun 01 2014, 11:35AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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See Link2

Also it appears that the Chinese have done the first work with magnetic assist (MA) quantum computers.
Its a bit like building a jet engine, the turbines themselves ie the devices rotate relatively slowly but the airflow ie the quantum components move faster.

The main advantage of my device is the reduced cooling needed, however important limitations do exist such as the quantum components only occuring at random where parts of the memory happen to be "just right" under operating conditions.
Also even if this works on a larger scale as the readback depends on Icc stochastic amplification only some information can be obtained on each "run".

This might be handy for certain applications such as AI but not so much for more useful problems like breaking codes.

EDIT: No response yet from D-Wave about my axion interference hypothesis, perhaps I am indeed right.

Also included:

"Work by DARPA and various scientists including A de Guerin on the positronic brain suggests that if the cemi field interpretation holds, a sentient neural network could be built using essentially off the shelf hardware comparable in density to a 64GB microSD card ie 14-22nm features constructed in a novel way.
The essential requirements would be: interconnection via electromagnetic fields between the layers and the correct underlying matrix structure laid down using existing wafer scale integration (WSI) methods with electrical connections for power and data using existing edge, optical or through chip vias.
As the neural systems would be sensitive to temperature fluctuations due to changing feature size, it would need to be kept in a very narrow range between -18 and -20 Celsius in a multi-Tesla magnetic field in order to correctly function.

In this case, data would be written as logical blocks within the positronic brain, wear leveling disabled and written cells corresponding to the dendrites and axons allowing large scale 3D structures to form.
The overall electromagnetic field would be self generating and only occur when the system was within the mentioned parameters, giving a clear indication that the system was indeed conscious."

EDIT: Interesting to note that it was deleted, as "original research" ..
Maybe all it would take for this to happen by accident is a fluke of manufacture as enough of these are made for storing data on phones, laptops etc.


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