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IamSmooth
Fri Mar 07 2014, 03:02PM Print
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I need a very stable voltage source. I can set it between 4.1-5.1v as long as it stays at one value with the smallest ripple possible. Right now I have a 7.5v wall adapter that I input into a 5.1v voltage regulator. On a standard volt meter the signal is stable. I will look at it with my digital scope later and see if putting a diode/capacitor or resistor/zenor combination help.

I am looking for advice as to the best way for the most stable voltage output for a precision instrument. Thanks.
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Sulaiman
Fri Mar 07 2014, 03:33PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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A 5.1 v zener diode has a significant dv/dT characteristic ... not what you want
look for "precision reference" from your supplier.

You may find that the precision that you require is unavailable at your required voltage
but precision resistor dividers can provide any lower reference voltage.
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Alex M
Fri Mar 07 2014, 05:04PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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How about a TL431? They are very stable and used in SMPS all the time to as a stable adjustable reference to set the output voltage. It is available in a number of different packages including the familiar TO-92 package.

Product page Link2

Data sheet Link2

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Dr. Slack
Fri Mar 07 2014, 05:07PM
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removed, rant not helpful
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IamSmooth
Fri Mar 07 2014, 06:23PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Dr. Slack wrote ...


Use reasonably low noise amplifiers like OP275 (6nV), not LM324 or TL071, or any low current CMOS stuff.

I will look into this. How would I find a "low-noise" opamp using a datasheet. Is there a particular parameter during the search to fine tune this requirement?
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Proud Mary
Fri Mar 07 2014, 06:39PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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MAX6126B-SOIC looks cool. Vout 5V, Temp. Coeff ppm/°C = 5, initial accuracy % max = 0.06.

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IamSmooth
Fri Mar 07 2014, 07:14PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I've checked out a few of the through-hole voltage reference chips.

What is the difference between a voltage regulator and a voltage reference? Is it the degree of accuracy of maintaining the output constant?

Edit: I see, the reference does not supply current like a regulator. I should have clarified that I need the voltage source to power my opamp and dac.
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Proud Mary
Fri Mar 07 2014, 11:04PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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The voltage reference provides voltage information to the voltage regulator, so the regulator has some definite value to cling on to.

This paper should give you some practical ideas about how a reference can be used in a precision voltage source: Link2


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Dr. Slack
Sat Mar 08 2014, 07:54AM
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Sulaiman
Sat Mar 08 2014, 10:49AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Having looked at the datasheet for the MAX6126B as suggested by PM
the 4.096 V should be ideal as a reference for Lithium battery charge/discharge management.
In my opinion, a super-precise reference is not required
as the nominal 4.1 v charging voltage is a fairly loose specification,
with for example no temperature considerations.
(ask Boeing ! )
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