If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #33
Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
Location: Norway
Posts: 971
Uspring wrote ...
The OP posted a band reject filter, rejecting the tanks resonant frequency.
I thought he might have measured across the LC tank, making it a bandpass, but you're right, he just confirmed that he measured across the resistor. The posted waveforms look more like what I would expect from a bandpass though, with a lot of third harmonic getting through and just a bit of the fundamental, but I'm a bit confused as the circuit he describes is a band reject as you say. Is there something else funny going on, is it a measurement error, or am I just misunderstanding the whole thing?
Registered Member #543
Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
The distortion of the input sinewave is not evenly distributed, with much of the harmonic energy concentrated in the peaks. When these harmonics are blocked by LC, the output peaks are attenuated.
The 12 kHz picture suggests, that the fundamental is suppressed and mostly the 3rd harmonic left over. Mysterious to me. If the OP wouldn't have just confirmed a f0 of 40kHz, I would have thought, he got the inductance wrong, e.g. 2mH instead of 0.2mH.
Registered Member #816
Joined: Sun Jun 03 2007, 07:29PM
Location:
Posts: 156
The reason I think it’s behaving like a band pass, is the output impedance is much greater than the input impedance (the signal generator output). Any magnification due to Q is mostly going to appear across the 3.3k resistor, As already mentioned along with a significant part of the input frequency. Differing phase shifts adding probably give the peculiar waveforms. Incidentally using Q = r x ( square root of C/L) got the value of 74, with the 3.3k load. Edit, Not technically correct as the component losses are unknown and haven’t been taken into account so should have said Q wouldn’t be higher than 74.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.