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Thomas W
Thu Dec 12 2013, 10:16PM Print
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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Hello, ive got a RLC circuit i just made up for some fun...

L & C are in parallel with the R in series with them.

R = 3k3
L = 203uH
C = 100nF
fo = 40KHz
For some reason im getting very strange RLC waves, can anyone explain to me whats happening around 10-14Khz?
WVpAWFn
Thanks,
TCWilliamson
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johnf
Fri Dec 13 2013, 06:11AM
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Yes but what is the input impedance??
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Thomas W
Fri Dec 13 2013, 09:12AM
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its just coming from the 50 Ohm output of a function generator, im confused what the strange wave is around 14Khz
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Proud Mary
Fri Dec 13 2013, 12:41PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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What you have made is an LCR filter exhibiting selective attenuation.

Google LCR filter to learn more than you ever really wanted to know about transfer functions and damping ratios.
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Electra
Fri Dec 13 2013, 11:52PM
Electra Registered Member #816 Joined: Sun Jun 03 2007, 07:29PM
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Looks like your exiting your tuned circuit at harmonics of the signal gen frequency. At 12Khz I can see 3 peeks in one cycle. From the values I made the F0 to be 35.3Khz which if you divide by 3 is 11.7khz close to 12khz.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Dec 14 2013, 11:52AM
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Yes, a square wave has odd harmonics, so you are exciting the response of the filter at 3x, 5x etc. your driving frequency. Switch to sine wave and your output will be sine as well.
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Proud Mary
Sat Dec 14 2013, 11:54AM
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Dr. Dark Current wrote ...

Yes, a square wave has odd harmonics, so you are exciting the response of the filter at 3x, 5x etc. your driving frequency. Switch to sine wave and your output will be sine as well.

Where did the square wave come from?
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Dec 14 2013, 11:58AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Proud Mary wrote ...

Where did the square wave come from?
From his function generator I would say, the driving waveform wasn't mentioned, if I've not missed something.
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Wolfram
Tue Dec 17 2013, 05:08PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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Is the other wave in your scope pictures is the input waveform? It doesn't look like a very nice sine wave. When you are around 13 kHz, the significant third harmonic content of your "sine" is passed through the filter. Some of the fundamental also gets through the filter at this frequency, and these two signals mixed form what you see between 10 and 14 kHz.

In the future, I would suggest adding a diagram with the complete test setup and labeling the waveforms to show where in the circuit the measurements were made. To you it might be obvious, since you have the setup in front of you, but we can only guess from the limited amount of info posted.
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Uspring
Tue Dec 17 2013, 08:07PM
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The OP posted a band reject filter, rejecting the tanks resonant frequency.

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