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Any good software fom simolation of transients ?

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Newton Brawn
Fri Aug 30 2013, 01:06AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Anyone has the SIDAC model ?
Or the sintax for SIDAC
Thanks
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Newton Brawn
Fri Aug 30 2013, 01:11AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Dr Slak,
2Spoons,

Thanks, I will see the Simetrix
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Aug 31 2013, 11:21AM
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... wrote ...

I would go with LTspice or Qucs, both of them have plenty of tutorials that can help you out simulating a simple circuit like that
Getting either of these to actually simulate circuits with strong transients is like pulling teeth for me ... I have to just keep adding parasitics and twiddling with the simulation settings and praying for it to converge.
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Aug 31 2013, 12:02PM
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You can use Paschen's law to determine when the arc will strike. This paper has a spice model for spark gaps, if it's completely open air you can just leave off the surface conduction part.

PS. these models tend to need to be experimentally fit to be "usefull" ;)
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Newton Brawn
Mon Sept 02 2013, 03:59AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Hi Pink's Brain,

Following your advice I have tried to access " this paper " however no success.

Do you mind to email it to me ?

Thanks

Newton

**link**
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Uspring
Mon Sept 02 2013, 09:38AM
Uspring Registered Member #3988 Joined: Thu Jul 07 2011, 03:25PM
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Pinky's Brain wrote:
... wrote ...

I would go with LTspice or Qucs, both of them have plenty of tutorials that can help you out simulating a simple circuit like that
Getting either of these to actually simulate circuits with strong transients is like pulling teeth for me ... I have to just keep adding parasitics and twiddling with the simulation settings and praying for it to converge.
Yes, I've also had LTSpice endlessly loop occasionally. Even in the case of convergency I sometimes find the results not plausible. Do you care to share some of the simulation settings you have tried?

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Pinky's Brain
Mon Sept 02 2013, 02:51PM
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Newton Brawn wrote ...

Hi Pink's Brain,

Following your advice I have tried to access " this paper " however no success.

Do you mind to email it to me ?
Sure, but it's bizarre ... I checked and the URL is correct and it accesses it here with a consumer ISP account.

I suspect you are behind some (great) firewall, just changing the https to http probably would have worked as well (it's reachable from both).

Uspring : it's black magic to me ... I think to really work well with most Spice simulators you have to have a fundamental understanding of how they work and how to help them over hurdles, just like how good programmers for high performant code have to internalize the compiler.
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