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EasternVoltageResearch wrote ...
MODERATOR - I think its probably time to lock the thread. This thread is moving farther and farther away from real science and into the realm of pseudoscience.
While I'm not sure if this thread is going anywhere, I'm not sure it's broken the 'conservation of energy' rule yet.
(but then I'm not a mod )
I'm interested to see what this proposed design is. I wish Tarakan would post a diagram, or something.
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I see. I will try to make my own spark gap where electromagnets that receive current by the means of the spark discharge will effect the spark.
Thank you for referring me to those beautiful photos.
There will be a design. I will list all parts used in this design. Wait for a month and I will publish it if it will be any different than an ordinary Tesla coil.
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What capacitor type should I use for a capacity bank? I am building everything to withstand 20000V. What would be the most cost effective capacitor bank for me to employ in driving my tesla primary? Mylar, mica, ceramic? There are so many types of dielectrics.
Should I go with bigger values or should i keep values small to have a greater total diameter of leads? This will allow all the energy stored to reach the sparking device more rapidly. (My coil will operate from a DC supply and this is the difference between 'my' hypothetical Tesla device and others)
Dear moderators, I have watched a documentary on Isaac Newton in school. It showed a historian that tried to follow an ancient alchemist recipe of making a philosopher stone to see where this recipe will take him and maybe to see what Newton had experienced, while experimenting with alchemy. I am not after free energy, radiant energy or anything of this nature. I just want to see, what if we missed something.
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tarakan2 wrote ...
What capacitor type should I use for a capacity bank? I am building everything to withstand 20000V. What would be the most cost effective capacitor bank for me to employ in driving my tesla primary? Mylar, mica, ceramic? There are so many types of dielectrics.
Should I go with bigger values or should i keep values small to have a greater total diameter of leads? This will allow all the energy stored to reach the sparking device more rapidly. (My coil will operate from a DC supply and this is the difference between 'my' hypothetical Tesla device and others)
I guess it depends on how much capacitance you need.
Saltwater capacitors are the easiest HV capacitors to make. From memory, a 2 litre polythene bottle gives ~50nF.
After that, there are various methods for rolling capacitors using kitchen foil and various plastic sheets.
Then you could buy lower voltage capacitors and string them together in series for higher voltage, and use additional strings for greater capacitance values.
MKP types are generally considered best for this.
Without knowing more about your proposed project, it's difficult to know what advice to give you.
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Ok Thank you So here is another interesting question. Spark gaps can be modulated my magnetic field. I could not achieve this but I am only playing with 1000V right now
So if I locate my spark gap inside the primary coil, can I cause the spark to be modulated by the magnetic flux that the coil generates?
What will change if I put the spark 90 degrees to the flux or along the flux?
Had anybody looked at the original Tesla Transformer patent? I want to see the fine details but I cannot find it.
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I think that if the arc is 'along the flux' it will spiral. If it is 'accross the flux' it will move at right angles to the flux, something to do with the right hand rule....or is it the left hand rule?
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Possibly. All I really need is bigger and more smooth DC arcs to see this effect of magnets on them. I was able to quench the ark with a magnet today but the jig I built for that was very sloppy.
Even the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil I see a device that is very different than a pop culture Tesla coil. Where did this image originate? I cannot find any patent of 1891-1898 that depict this specific device.
If you look at the generator, it is not polyphase. It looks like a DC generator with brushes. Nikola Tesla had no better rectification technology than brushes and commutators. So it ran off DC current... What do you think?
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I may be wrong on this, but your probably not going to find any patents on the Tesla transformer around the 1891 date. 1891 is around the year that he made the device (unconfirmed) which probably means that any patent on it follows many years after. Again, I could be wrong..
Although I am not allowed to talk about radiant energy here, I am of the opinion that electricity is not made entirely of electrons. I believe in this for one simple reason: all MODERN photographs of Tesla transformers on the internet reveal either electric, violet nitrogen discharges that look like lightnings or some softer white glow that flows in more smooth patterns. Maybe this discharge has different QUALITIES than the blue, angular discharge.
I want to see this device at work. If you notice, there is no coil capacitor oscillation loop, just a primary that is being stimulated by a discharge. I had built the circuit that runs off 1000V like this but it failed to excite a secondary that I recently bought. The discharge was very bright from a microwave oven capacitor.
1) Tesla adjusted his primary and secondary so they have the same mass. It makes sense in this kind of setup.
3) I have seen patents that reveal that Tesla used spark gaps that were servo-controlled. I am not sure what kind of circuitry was used to drive the servo, but I suspect that some adjustments had to be done during his device operations.
Having the technology of Arduino and servo machines for RC airplanes, I can rig this up very easily if I see the need to.
My 1000V experiment reveals that the time interval between discharges varies. It has a pattern of intervals that repeats every three discharges.
A very steady pattern, almost musical.
And here is my another question on this forum to reveal my real stupidity:
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