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tarakan2

Fri Jun 14 2013, 02:09PM

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Should I figure this out empirically ?
I know that there are Tesla Coil Calculators and various approximation formulas but what are the most important factors?
But there is also cost.

teravolt

Sat Jun 15 2013, 02:06AM

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how are you going to measure any thing with out a o-scope or equipment? You will need them to verify your ideas. do you have sketch?

tarakan2

Sat Jun 15 2013, 04:37PM

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What ideas?
I want to build a classical Tesla Coil. According to some sources what we all think is a classical Tesla Coil was invented by someone else. Tesla Coil is not a resonant device.

Physics Junkie

Sat Jun 15 2013, 06:35PM

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tarakan2 wrote ...

According to some sources what we all think is a classical Tesla Coil was invented by someone else. Tesla Coil is not a resonant device.

What are your sources? Please elaborate. Who invented the Tesla coil and how do "your sources" think it works?

tarakan2

Sat Jun 15 2013, 11:33PM

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Well
If I tell, I will be banned from this forum. I have some experimental evidence to prove my point.
Read Secrets of Cold War Technology by Gerry Vassilatos.

Physics Junkie

Sun Jun 16 2013, 02:01AM

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Dont take this the wrong way, I respect your interest in that stuff, but I'm not sure how any of that pertains to your wanting to build a Tesla coil, or how anyone here is supposed to help you when you're making a claim with nothing to back it up or because you can't tell us. That book you linked is about death rays and orgone emulators and ethereal science and HAARP. A friendly reminder, If your trying to build some etheral orgone device based on science that has no proof, then 4hv is probably not the place like mentioned already. When you say you want to build a classical Tesla coil, I assumed you meant spark gap.

tarakan2

Sun Jun 16 2013, 04:54AM

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Ok. No orgone, no HAARP.

At this point I am not sure what I want to build because my research brought me to a dead end.
I found some more evidence that true Tesla coils were not harmonic devices.

There are questions that I would like to ask:

Can electric arcs be effected by magnetism and if they can, is there any way that would allow the breakdown to be very sharp?

Is it possible to employ some (fairly cheap and abundant) vacuum or gas-filled device for a discharger?

Andy

Sun Jun 16 2013, 05:41AM

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Hi tarakan2, haven't tested it but a large inductor( >1H) in parallel with the spark gap might work

If the spark gap has a breakdown of 20kv when the switch reach 20kv and fires the inductor reverses polarity to 10kv, making the spark gap only 10kv stopping the arc

Mads Barnkob

Sun Jun 16 2013, 05:49AM

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This topic is now only about discussing Tesla coils, anything else or going further down the road of pseudoscience, then this is not the forum for it.

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tarakan2

Sun Jun 16 2013, 07:05AM

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Mads Barnkob wrote ...

This topic is now only about discussing Tesla coils, anything else or going further down the road of pseudoscience, then this is not the forum for it.

Part II: Posting

I. Free energy, electrogravitics, and all other types of pseudoscience are not allowed on any part of this site, nor are links to sites that deal primarily with these subjects. If this is what you seek, you can google many, many other sites and forums that will accept such topics. Discussion of such topics will only be allowed if someone has undeniable, 100% solid proof that this isn't pseudoscience. If this is the case, we'd also like to hear about when and where you will be accepting your Nobel Prize.

I am not arguing with this.
I want to make a spark that will discharge very quickly and be as far from harmonic as possible.

There are many sparks with many qualities out there that can be achieved for different uses.

Andy wrote ...

Hi tarakan2, haven't tested it but a large inductor( >1H) in parallel with the spark gap might work

If the spark gap has a breakdown of 20kv when the switch reach 20kv and fires the inductor reverses polarity to 10kv, making the spark gap only 10kv stopping the arc

Thank you. I like this idea. I will try to implement it in my circuit.
Can the collapsing magnetic field in the Tesla coil primary drive an auxiliary coil that would do this job?

Do two switches represent two individual spark gaps or should there only be one in place of SW2?
R2 is to keep electronics simulator from announcing that there is a short circuit/overcurrent?

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