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The making of a Tesla transformer with 811A tube

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Patric
Sat Jun 08 2013, 06:01PM Print
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Thomas W
Sat Jun 08 2013, 06:04PM
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Very Nice!
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Physics Junkie
Sat Jun 08 2013, 06:08PM
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Hey that's really neat! Nice quality build, and photos. Show us more sparks! smile
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PhilGood
Tue Jun 11 2013, 08:31PM
PhilGood Registered Member #3806 Joined: Sat Apr 02 2011, 09:20PM
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Very nice video and pics ! Very neat build ^^

I already saw this video more than a year ago, thougt it was here but I might be wrong, thanks for sharing !

What is the max spark length you achieved with this coil ? (without grounded target)

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Patric
Wed Jun 12 2013, 10:49AM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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I get sparks from about 15 cm (6 inch) long, with a beautiful noise. Now I replaced the 811a by a TB3-750 and the sparks are a little bigger, but there is no reddening of the tube at full power. I will post a movie later.
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PhilGood
Wed Jun 12 2013, 05:29PM
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Patric wrote ...

I replaced the 811a by a TB3-750 and the sparks are a little bigger, but there is no reddening of the tube at full power. I will post a movie later.
You had to replace the filament transformer. Why not use a 572B instead ?

Looking forward for sparks videos !

If I remember well you are using a special kind of power regulation on mains side with a triac ans some other components , but I don't remeber exactly how it was designed and I can't find the shcematic, could you please repost or link it ?
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Patric
Wed Jun 12 2013, 06:02PM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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I had the TB3-750...
This is the circuit, and it works very well:


1371059991 2899 FT154745 Tesla811adef


With the 811a I regulated until 1500 V ac-supply, and the tube became light-red, with my new tube I go to 2000V.
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PhilGood
Thu Jun 13 2013, 02:24PM
PhilGood Registered Member #3806 Joined: Sat Apr 02 2011, 09:20PM
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Hi Patrick :)

Thanks for the shematics !
This might be an interesting alternative to the heavy variac when you want the power control integrated to the coil.
I will try this curcuit.

However I don't understand exactly how it works. Looks like a kind of light dimmer.
I just wonder how this can actually work because if the triac starts or stops conducting when voltage is not zero I think there would be disruptive problems at MOT's level.

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Patric
Thu Jun 13 2013, 03:15PM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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It is actually a light dimmer! But it works flawlessly, I have a couple of them working, and I had no problems. It is a miracle! smile
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jun 13 2013, 03:31PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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It is a standard phase angle controller, like in a light dimmer. With high leakage transformers (such as a MOT), it can be used to control power, but also the RF envelope (shape and sound of sparks).

PS. Neat coil Patric smile
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