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Physics Junkie
Fri May 10 2013, 02:11AM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
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That's a stereotype but whatever.. I have a family member who is a convected felon and he is wealthy, lives in a high class society, has no affiliations to gangs, has degrees from U of M and Columbia University, very smart eduacted nice person, would be very capable of using a 3D printer. And I agree especially being right outside detroit, if I wanted to go buy a weapon illegally, gang territory is where I'd likely find one, and not many people going to risk that unless they are gang affiliated. And AK47 templates online and other related searches are likely red flagged as well.
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Steve Conner
Fri May 10 2013, 09:32AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Years ago a guy known to us (who shall remain nameless) made himself a Sten gun. I suppose he found the plans online.

The Sten was a cheap and nasty submachine gun, designed to be slapped together in improvised workshops during World War 2. As it was fully automatic, he got done under the National Firearms Act (passed in 1934 to regulate "gangster weapons") and went to jail for a while.

So you can see this controversy is older than 3D printers, and the law already has mechanisms to handle it. The Sten is 100x more lethal than this stupid toy plastic gun, and the tools required to make one cost less than a 3D printer.
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Houdini0118
Fri May 10 2013, 10:20AM
Houdini0118 Registered Member #8558 Joined: Thu Dec 06 2012, 11:38PM
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I think this is more dangerous than a 3d printed gun. Link2

Also i guess i phrased that badly i mean the kind of convicted felon likely to do something dangerous with a gun is likely to know were to get them.
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Steve Conner
Fri May 10 2013, 10:52AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Houdini0118 wrote ...

I think this is more dangerous than a 3d printed gun. Link2
Yeek! That video needs to be banned before OMG terrorists see it ;-O
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HV Enthusiast
Fri May 10 2013, 12:14PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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I wonder what the statistics are presently on crimes committed using completely self-manufactured firearms. I am guessing its a very low statistic.
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Adrenaline
Fri May 10 2013, 01:39PM
Adrenaline Registered Member #235 Joined: Wed Feb 22 2006, 04:59PM
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Physics Junkie wrote ...

I doubt you can get military grade lower receivers off "your local street corner" lol. I certainly don't know any where around where I live that you can go to the street corner and buy any guns... however, making a 3D printed lower receiver and then buying top grade parts to finish the weapon is more probable. Ak47 are cheap, M16's are not. 3D printers are much cheaper than an M16.

Actually you can easily, illegally, fit M16 parts into an AR15 lower reciever (with minor mods).

Physics Junkie wrote ...
Furthermore, I'm not concerned that the average DIY guy is going to use a 3D printer to make his replica M240B into a fully functioning weapon for evil intentions. I am concerned about the people with bad intentions, criminal or not.

Criminals will be criminals. Why punish the law abiding?
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Physics Junkie
Fri May 10 2013, 03:36PM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Adrenaline, do you live in the US?

Punishing the law abiding is the USA way lol...
(Just kidding... sort of....)
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Conundrum
Fri May 10 2013, 05:37PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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The Federal Government response begins.
Link2

-A
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Adrenaline
Fri May 10 2013, 06:26PM
Adrenaline Registered Member #235 Joined: Wed Feb 22 2006, 04:59PM
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Yes I am in the USA, Illinois of all places.
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Bored Chemist
Fri May 10 2013, 06:31PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
Location: sheffield
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If you guys stopped selling ammunition in the supermarkets, this would not be an issue.
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