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Physics Junkie
Tue Mar 26 2013, 03:32AM
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What exactly are you asking? What the spacing should be?
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the mad scientist
Tue Mar 26 2013, 05:19AM
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Yes, I need to know exactly how to do it for a pancake coil some instructions are here Link2
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Physics Junkie
Tue Mar 26 2013, 05:50AM
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as quoted from your link "If you make a primary from 0.25 inch coppper tubing with 0.25 inch spacing and a 9.3 nf capacitor you will be in tune at about turn 9 or 10(with a 12kV 30ma NST)."


So what don't you get how to do?
whatever your supports are, either drill a 3/8" hole or 1/4" notch every half inch and thats it. From that you have 1/4" primary with 1/4" spacing between turns...
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the mad scientist
Tue Mar 26 2013, 05:51AM
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That is the thing, I need to know how to do that properly, when I put the marks 0.25 inches from each other then go to drill a 0.25-3/8 inch hole the spacing is no longer 0.25 inches. Get what I am saying?
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Physics Junkie
Tue Mar 26 2013, 05:54AM
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the mad scientist wrote ...

That is the thing, I need to know how to do that properly, when I put the marks 0.25 inches from each other then go to drill a 0.25-3/8 inch hole the spacing is no longer 0.25 inches. Get what I am saying?

yes. 1/4" spacing means 1/4 between the turns, not where you drill holes. distance between the center point for where you drill 3/8" hole will be half an inch. 1/2" minus 1/4" tubing = 1/4 spacing between turns.


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Does this help? Use 3/8" drill bit as you might find trouble trying to slide 1/4" tubing through 1/4" holes. The dimensions will work out the same and you will have an average of about .22" spacing between turns but that hardly makes a difference.
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the mad scientist
Thu Mar 28 2013, 04:23PM
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I think I am going to do notches to lay the copper tubing down into, instead of holes, should I still do it 3/8'' ?
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Physics Junkie
Thu Mar 28 2013, 05:40PM
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If you do notches you can probably do 1/4" and snap the primary into the notch. If they still dont fit just take a circular file and file the notches till they fit in snug. But making the notches 3/8" is no problem either..
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the mad scientist
Thu Mar 28 2013, 09:41PM
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Rebuilt the primary coil for my Tesla coil, it is THE MOST beautiful thing I have ever seen will post pics later
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Katya
Mon Apr 15 2013, 01:28AM
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the mad scientist,

I've tried a modification of Greg's cable tie method with refrigerator tubing on my toolbox Tesla (a coil designed from the start to be likely to fit in a typical toolbox). It was easy to construct and the cable ties provided approximately the right spacing for 1/4" copper tubing (which is already in a pancake coil shape).

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The general rule of thumb I've encountered is turn spacing should be roughly wire diameter.

Strangely because I don't play any musical instruments which need me to tune them, I tune my coil by ear and by looking at the sparks. If the sparks and the noise please me, I am happy with my work (whether or not it's actually properly tuned). It's just a choice to be qualitative rather than quantitative once the coil is on the workbench almost all done.
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the mad scientist
Wed May 15 2013, 02:42PM
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I am going to test the coil soon, I just need to make a good rotary spark gap.
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