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A First DRSSTC - Just completed Table Top Coil!

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loneoceans
Sun Feb 24 2013, 05:58AM Print
loneoceans Registered Member #4098 Joined: Fri Sept 16 2011, 09:26PM
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Hi everyone,

Introducing my first DRSSTC!
My Flickr page has more photographs: Link2

It's been a while since I posted anything here, but I just wanted to share my latest project over here. I've built a couple of SGTCs in the past, as well as a SSTC based on a half bridge of 60n60c2d1 minibrick IGBTs, and thought it would be a good idea to make my first DRSSTC. Here's a photo of it in action!

I'm in the process of doing a writeup right here: Link2

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As a learning experience, I wanted to go for something simple and nothing too fancy. I've had the fortune of being in the good company of other brilliant coilers (like Dr. Isotop here), and managed to get an older version of the oneTesla driver PCB, which runs this coil! I faced a couple of problems over the past few weeks but I've modified some parts and managed to get the coil working very well!

Important specifications including calcs from JavaTC:

- Max spark length - I don't know yet, does >20" sparks to free air and ground with ~100us on-time. More testing to come soon.
- 222kHz resonant frequency (within 1%)
- 2.4" Diameter PVC Secondary, ~2000 turns of AWG36 for a 10.25" length
- 3.5" Diameter Acrylic Primary, 6 turns of AWG 14 for about 0.8" length
- Single 0.101uF 2kVDC 942C CDE Primary Capacitor
- 340VDC (120VAC rectified and doubled)
- Roughly 100us on-time (in the photos here)
- 2.2" x 8" AmazingOne spun toroid
- Half Bridge of 60N65 IGBTs (seems to be similar to the 60N60 TO247 IGBTs)
- Coupling = 0.22
- Energy Transfer time = 9.87us

Performance has been pretty good. I'm currently using an interrupter made by Dr. Isotop and Kramnik; the coil is controlled by the normal fiber-optics most other coilers use.

Originally, the coil used a 0.068uF 940C capacitor but that made my primary frequency about 19% too high and I lost a 60N60 half bridge. Increasing the primary to 8 turns of 14AWG (k=0.26) turned out to be a bad idea and I had a lot of racing sparks. After a few more coats of Polyurethane on the secondary, a return to 6 turns of AWG14 and a larger tank cap, the coil is in tune with a performance I'm very happy with.

This coil currently has a tiny built-in 19VDC laptop power supply for the electronics which uses the famed UCCs from TI as gate drivers to a GDT driving the gates of the IGBTs. More photos of the coil in action:

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Would like to thank Dr. Isotop, Kramnik, and everyone else on the board for the valuable information and advice when building this coil. Right now I'm currently working on a newer coil using brick IGBTs (similar to CM150s).

Best Wishes!
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Physics Junkie
Sun Feb 24 2013, 06:51AM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 407
Cool photos. I remember seeing this on loneoceans.com a while back, or maybe it was the sstc I dont remember. Anyway, good job.
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zilipoper
Sun Feb 24 2013, 10:42AM
zilipoper Registered Member #4152 Joined: Thu Oct 20 2011, 10:18PM
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it is amazing amazed
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RateReducer
Mon Feb 25 2013, 02:18PM
RateReducer Registered Member #4603 Joined: Wed Apr 25 2012, 07:33PM
Location: Austria
Posts: 159
Very nice Coil and awesome photos! amazed
What settings are you you using on your camera? Exposure time, aperture...
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Steve Conner
Mon Feb 25 2013, 02:43PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Ooo! Excellent pictures! smile
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Feb 25 2013, 03:33PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Wow! Thats beautiful. I really like the detail on the arcs hitting the pavement and the banding on the arcs!

Thanks for sharing!!!!
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loneoceans
Mon Feb 25 2013, 05:26PM
loneoceans Registered Member #4098 Joined: Fri Sept 16 2011, 09:26PM
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Thanks for the kinds words everyone!

Physics Junkie - That was definitely my SSTC then; the photos I've posted here were just taken within the past few days. I've had a bunch of problems with tuning and flashovers and finally got the right configuration!

RateReducer wrote ...

Very nice Coil and awesome photos! amazed
What settings are you you using on your camera? Exposure time, aperture...

The photos were taken using a 50mm lens set mostly at f2.8 IIRC. The exposure times etc don't really matter because it really depends on what frequency you're running the coil at. The coil (in these photos) were set up to play music via a MIDI Keyboard, so I just opened the shutter, played a few notes, and closed the shutter. ISO was between 800 and 1250, but it really depends on your coil and the surrounding brightness.

The photos here were taken with the coil running around 100us on-times. I tried to use a 'kill-a-watt' watt meter to measure power drawn but the meter goes crazy. I'd estimate that the coil draws about 500W, but again it depends greatly on on-time and bps.


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loneoceans
Mon Feb 25 2013, 05:31PM
loneoceans Registered Member #4098 Joined: Fri Sept 16 2011, 09:26PM
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I did a quick test to see how far the arcs would strick with a roughly 90us on-time and it seems to be able to comfortably do 21 inches as you can see in the photo below. The sparks are hitting a metal pipe, though it's sitting on a pushcart with rubber wheels so probably not a very good ground-strike test!

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However, most of the sparks are simply hitting the concrete floor instead of going out, so I might need to do a different ground-strike test to find it's maximum spark length. For now, the 60N65 IGBTs seem to be holding up well!
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Graham Armitage
Sun Mar 03 2013, 09:57PM
Graham Armitage Registered Member #6038 Joined: Mon Aug 06 2012, 11:31AM
Location: Salado, TX
Posts: 248
Those really are great quality photos - good looking coil too. Have any video on youtube?
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loneoceans
Mon Mar 04 2013, 01:25AM
loneoceans Registered Member #4098 Joined: Fri Sept 16 2011, 09:26PM
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Posts: 236
Bushman wrote ...

Those really are great quality photos - good looking coil too. Have any video on youtube?


Thanks for your comments Bushman! Yes in fact I do have a short video. Note that the Tesla Coil was run at varying pulse widths (from about 110 to 60us), and was controlled via a midi keyboard + midi interrupter.

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