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Coronafix

Fri Feb 08 2013, 03:00AM

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I re-watched the bit you mention, I think he may be saying that the knowledge of the bowl shaped magnetic field has been known before on perhaps a spiritual or intuitive level.
It is now known without a doubt that early cultures somehow had advanced knowledge that we have only recently discovered such as the precession of the equinoxes, but this is tangential to the information being shown particularly in the second video.
If the bowl shaped magnetic field acts as a funnel to suck in matter and compress it under the sphere, then why is that not a good explanation of why space is a vacuum?
Question is, what creates these large magnetic fields in space? This suggests massive electric charges moving through space.

Physics Junkie

Fri Feb 08 2013, 03:33AM

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Coronafix wrote ...

the knowledge of the bowl shaped magnetic field has been known before on perhaps a spiritual or intuitive level.
It is now known without a doubt that early cultures somehow had advanced knowledge that we have only recently discovered

Right on. When people built those structures long ago, everything down to the architecture itself was both divinely inspired on a spiritual level as well as containing the knowledge they held embedded in the geometry of the structures themselves. In fact this has still been done in the past few hundred years. Many discoveries have suggested that the builders and architects of many ancient structures put their knowledge into the geometry of the structures in efforts that the knowledge will survive for a very long time and that only wise and worthy people will re-discover this knowledge if lost.

BigBad

Fri Feb 08 2013, 05:52AM

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If the bowl shaped magnetic field acts as a funnel to suck in matter and compress it under the sphere, then why is that not a good explanation of why space is a vacuum?

Because, no offense meant, it's a bloody stupid idea.

Space is a vacuum because of gravity and expansion of space after the big bang.

Gravity pulls all the gas together; gas is gravitationally unstable, it naturally forms into pockets of gas, that (very roughly speaking) continue to collect with greater and greater density, until it reaches nuclear fusion pressures and temperatures and the star ignites.

Gravity has a very long range inverse square law, always attractive; whereas magnetic fields die away with an inverse cube law or worse, because they are bipolar, and tend to cancel entirely. So they nearly always act at fairly short range, comparable to a few times the diameter of the objects involved.

Coronafix wrote ...

Question is, what creates these large magnetic fields in space? This suggests massive electric charges moving through space.

You mainly get dynamo effects within the fluid flow of bodies like planets and stars, plasmas can carry magnetic fields, but yeah, electric charges flowing.

Ash Small

Fri Feb 08 2013, 10:03AM

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Coronafix wrote ...

Question is, what creates these large magnetic fields in space? This suggests massive electric charges moving through space.

Electric universe theory:

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the Earth's poles reverse due to external influences (unless anyone has a better explanation

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Steve Conner

Fri Feb 08 2013, 11:00AM

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This thread is borderline pseudoscience. It's certainly not new science. I don't care what any internet guru says, it is no longer possible to challenge the laws of physics with home lab experiments.

Coronafix

Fri Feb 08 2013, 11:47AM

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So no one finds this of any interest?
Borderline pseudoscience? Internet guru? Challenge the laws of physics?
I don't know how you came to these conclusions Steve.
Someone show me a normal magnet that can propel a ball bearing like a bullet. Someone show me a normal magnet with the magnetic geometries this has.
Theories of galactic formation aside, I see practical applications here.
Look at the geometric arrangement of magnetic particles within the field, does that do nothing for the imagination?
Attributing the vacuum of space to gravity without even knowing what gravity is, is...no offense...a bloody stupid idea.

BigBad

Sat Feb 09 2013, 08:09PM

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Attributing the vacuum of space to gravity without even knowing what gravity is, is...no offense...a bloody stupid idea.

If this was a valid argument we shouldn't attribute the orbits of the planets to gravity either.

In reality, we call the fact that 'stuff falls down': gravity, and then we build experimentally validated mathematical models of it, and look for relationships between it and other things. That's called: science, as opposed to what you're doing.

Ash Small

Sat Feb 09 2013, 09:42PM

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Without wanting to go too far OT, gravity isn't the only force that exists in space, take, for example, the MCE's that are threatening to knock out our satellites, etc in the near future.

The solar winds consist of charged particles, and there are plenty of other manifestations of charge in space, so particles with a like charge will be repelling each other, contributing to the near-vacuum of space and possibly also contributing to the expansion of the universe.

There are theories which argue that there is no need for 'dark matter', for which there is no evidence anyway, because electrical forces, which are much stronger than gravity, could account for the phenomena for which dark matter was 'invented' to explain.

While there is undoubtably some pseudo-science involved in some of the theories regarding the effects of electricity in space, it certainly isn't all pseudo-science.

Coronafix

Sun Feb 10 2013, 11:26PM

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He's just uploaded the part 3 on the nature of electromagnetic radiation.

I like the explanation for the refraction of light, akin to the turning circle of a large wheelbase compared to a small one.

Nik

Mon Feb 11 2013, 01:08AM

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I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover and all that but even before the video started this had all the warning signs of quack in a basement.

Comments off and ratings off: he is not open to criticism or discussion, not very scientific.

He starts by saying that matter has a different shaped magnetic field than a bar magnet. What's the bar magnet made of (maybe I misunderstood his wording but it sounds like he made a distinction)? If his magnetic fields don't pass from the north end of a particle to the south end (like conventional field lines are represented) then there would be no interaction when off to the side of the particle where the bowls taper in. Wouldn't his compass just spin freely there?

Having to MAKE bowl shaped magnets to get his results seems to indicate that he is just manipulating magnetic fields that are working in the conventional way, the way he says they don't work.

Likening it to the square nebula is just ridiculous, bismuth has a square crystal structure, does that mean that the nebula is made of bismuth? (I know its a straw man but its just as good as his argument)

The patterns he sees on the used bowls are what happens when you heat certain metals, not a mystery.

Dome shaped buildings in history, its not a key to solving the universe, its a way to not have the roof fall on you.

He has patents on this stuff, he wants to make money.

That's the first 15min, so far he has given no numbers, no detail diagrams or explanations of what he thinks is happening or how the shapes in his vacuum chamber are evidence for his argument. People are all to ready to jump on the "conventional science is outdated, we found the real truth in [religion, ancient civilization, space]."

*edit*

Superimposing 2 toruses over pictures of galaxies is not evidence for anything other than him picking a shape that fits comfortably around a galaxy.

Just realized 45min in, he has them painted red and blue, does he think that each of his bowls is a magnetic monopole? That's grounds for quackhood right there.

And the last nail is that EVERY demo he did can be explained using the standard theory of magnetic field lines.

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