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Simon

Mon Aug 21 2006, 12:30AM

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Simon Barsinister wrote ...

What they leave out is "when mars is viewed at 75X magnification"

My dad told me he got an email saying Mars would be as big as the moon in the sky. That's absolute nonsense but I had a look at the email myself. For some reason it had a paragraph break in the middle of a sentence. The first part of the sentence was something like, "when viewed at a modest 75X magnification". The second part started on the next paragraph and read, "Mars will appear as big as the full moon!"

As to getting to Mars, I think the fundamental problems aren't technological so that's not the issue. We know we can get to the moon with current technology, for example, (or at least fake a good movie of it...) but no one has for decades.

EEYORE

Mon Aug 21 2006, 04:17AM

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I dont know about you guys, but here where I live, mars IS as big as the moon. Infact it is much larger!You skeptics...

Maybe I should like to go live on mars...That would top my old roomate moving to Korea rather than finish up with gradschool...

"Yea, well Im on mars!...Im the juggernaut!"
2015 eh?I really hope the world is around long enough for that!Those crazy asshats in the middle east need to calm themselves...Maybe we could get the world to pause the violence while we work together to go to mars?

Matt

williamn

Mon Aug 21 2006, 04:55AM

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As to getting to Mars, I think the fundamental problems aren't technological so that's not the issue. We know we can get to the moon with current technology, for example, (or at least fake a good movie of it...) but no one has for decades.

One of the main reasons we went to the Moon is to pwn the Soviet space program. They had many firsts in space exploration and the US did not like the technological "gap". Henceforth we now live in a unipolar world and unless there is some sort of capital return involved with manned space exploration it will be a slow process filled with bureaucratic roadblocks, redtape, cutbacks etc. Private space exploration is an exciting idea.

Simon

Mon Aug 21 2006, 05:49AM

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mattrg2 wrote ...

I dont know about you guys, but here where I live, mars IS as big as the moon. Infact it is much larger!You skeptics...

Not as big in the sky.

This'll descend into sheer pedantry if it goes any further, I bet.

Williamn, you've more or less got the same point as me. It's not technology, it's motivation. (Which is money or power, for large scale projects in practice.)

EEYORE

Mon Aug 21 2006, 06:06AM

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Simon wrote ...

mattrg2 wrote ...

I dont know about you guys, but here where I live, mars IS as big as the moon. Infact it is much larger!You skeptics...

I meant in the sky...I was just being silly...lol...not trying to be a troll

(Ive been on medication after having my wisdom teeth pulled out)
Matt

Coyote Wilde

Tue Aug 22 2006, 07:13PM

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50bil sounds a bit high for Mars Direct; Zubrin was originally quoating around 20 billion in "The Case for Mars" (excellent read, btw... spells out the entire plan far better than any discovery channel special ever could)
Zubrin also puts in a large chunk of text on the radiation "problem;" if I recall, he worked it out to about the same extra cancer risk for going on the mission as a career as a commercial airline pilot. It sure as hell wouldn't stop me from signing up!
Strikes me as something like Columbus waiting for a submarine to cross the Atlantic, because there might have been a storm... wooden ships, iron men, New Frontiers and all that. The risks aren't what's holding us back, either; there are people who would have hopped in a Shuttle the day after the Challenger or Columbia disasters. But I'll digress before I start to sound 'pundity'

Conundrum

Sun Jan 07 2007, 02:58PM

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This is as near as you can get to conclusive proof of water on Mars.

-A

btw download the two PDF links Chapter 10 and Chapter 11.

Chris Russell

Sun Jan 07 2007, 06:32PM

... not Russel!
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To what are you referring? I don't really see anything there that I would call conclusive proof. In fact, much of that site contains some really wacky stuff.

Pete

Mon Jan 08 2007, 08:06PM

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What Chris?!? Are you seriously doubting our Sir Charles W. Shults III, K.B.B.?!? President of the Xenotech research Facility, err, web page?? The man who paid to have that "Sir" put on his name?

For shame.

Googling his name = funny

Google sir charles...

Steve Conner

Tue Jan 09 2007, 12:35PM

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If anything, it's "proof" that Sir Shultz and Conundrum have been hanging out together and munching on magic mushrooms.

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