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Adam Munich
Tue Dec 25 2012, 04:08PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Link2

Essentially the same thing happened to me in middle school, but the police had enough common sense to realize a kid who draws a rocket-powered bus isn't a threat to national security.

Fun fact, I was given 4 days' detention for drawing an illustration of a crane dropping grand pianos on the same school.
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Dec 26 2012, 05:48PM
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Gren wrote ...

Link2

Essentially the same thing happened to me in middle school, but the police had enough common sense to realize a kid who draws a rocket-powered bus isn't a threat to national security.

Fun fact, I was given 4 days' detention for drawing an illustration of a crane dropping grand pianos on the same school.

I must admit at first that I promised myself not to go into this discussion to remain in a neutral zone where I could still be a moderator for this thread.

When I read through this thread, I see a subjective view on this matter. There is someone to blame, the weak, the sick or the government.

In Denmark, a country with a strict regulation of weapons but still people, that want to obtain weapons for hunting, shooting or collecting, still can get almost everything they want (semi auto/more than 5 rounds magazines are banned).

I made drawings of weapons, I made drawings of people getting killed. My neighbours two sons did the same, with a talent, today they are both working in the animation industry.

What I would like to point out is that is no single entity to blame for the way things happen, there is no god reigning down punishment for allowing homosexual marriages, there is not a individual suffering from ADHD that thereby is destined to go postal on the nearest kinder garden.

Everything is a product of the society surrounding them and if America is to change in a different direction from its current, change is going to come from within every single person, there is no I and them. Strict weapon regulations are not going to help anything, even less regulation or more guards are not going to help. There is no patch for human mentality, there is only years and years of hard work. Change is not going to come over night, it is going to come ten fold the time it was built up.

I served in the army, I served 6 additional years in the national guard. I am not a weighted to the left or right in politics, but towards the good in humans.

Mentally challenged and ill persons that can be a danger to society and are, to my experience from the news(no research), first recognized when they commit a serious crime involving hurting them self and other humans. We have to help our weak, challenged and ill. Obamas social security bills are in my eyes one of the first good steps towards regaining humanity and securing society as a whole.

As I last word, I wish I could write a more whole, more fluent, less rambling reply to this thread, but these are my thoughts.
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Ash Small
Wed Dec 26 2012, 08:49PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Mads Barnkob wrote ...

Gren wrote ...

Link2

Essentially the same thing happened to me in middle school, but the police had enough common sense to realize a kid who draws a rocket-powered bus isn't a threat to national security.

Fun fact, I was given 4 days' detention for drawing an illustration of a crane dropping grand pianos on the same school.

I must admit at first that I promised myself not to go into this discussion to remain in a neutral zone where I could still be a moderator for this thread.

When I read through this thread, I see a subjective view on this matter. There is someone to blame, the weak, the sick or the government.

In Denmark, a country with a strict regulation of weapons but still people, that want to obtain weapons for hunting, shooting or collecting, still can get almost everything they want (semi auto/more than 5 rounds magazines are banned).

I made drawings of weapons, I made drawings of people getting killed. My neighbours two sons did the same, with a talent, today they are both working in the animation industry.

What I would like to point out is that is no single entity to blame for the way things happen, there is no god reigning down punishment for allowing homosexual marriages, there is not a individual suffering from ADHD that thereby is destined to go postal on the nearest kinder garden.

Everything is a product of the society surrounding them and if America is to change in a different direction from its current, change is going to come from within every single person, there is no I and them. Strict weapon regulations are not going to help anything, even less regulation or more guards are not going to help. There is no patch for human mentality, there is only years and years of hard work. Change is not going to come over night, it is going to come ten fold the time it was built up.

I served in the army, I served 6 additional years in the national guard. I am not a weighted to the left or right in politics, but towards the good in humans.

Mentally challenged and ill persons that can be a danger to society and are, to my experience from the news(no research), first recognized when they commit a serious crime involving hurting them self and other humans. We have to help our weak, challenged and ill. Obamas social security bills are in my eyes one of the first good steps towards regaining humanity and securing society as a whole.

As I last word, I wish I could write a more whole, more fluent, less rambling reply to this thread, but these are my thoughts.

I agree, but in a country where guns are legal, aren't the 'nutters' going to target those places where guns are prohibited?
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Adam Munich
Wed Dec 26 2012, 09:49PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
Location: Cali-forn. i. a.
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Prohibiting them everywhere isn't going to solve the issue, then.

The people that successfully commit these mass murders are by no means stupid. If they intend to follow through with their plans, they *will* find a means to do so. Even if that means violating a few pesky gun laws.

The problem in my opinion, is just incompetence on the schools' part. Failing to help kids fit in; failing to provided clubs and activities, failing to help, rather than chastise the ones who don't fit in quite right.

Also, by failing to react properly to non-threatening situations. Link2
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