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Chris Cristini
Fri Nov 23 2012, 03:51PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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I experimented with The Trimmer engine alternator and couldn't even light a 55W head light ha-ha it stunk but mount the alternator on an 8 HP snow blower engine you can weld with it. I like the single motor/engine variable pitch Idea although I think it would not improve efficiency over four smaller electric motors because it will take the same amount of energy for lift but the gas ICE driving four variable rotors sounds promising for longer flight. I cant seem to think of an ICE generator and four motors being light enough for lift and also a generator may not produce enough power for 100A worth of motors being small enough to fit on board that being said I don't know if it would ever work unless you still use batteries the generator would add some flight time.

P.S I am designing a few different Crafts with Solidworks I will Post them In a few days but I plan on them being full models so it will take time. I will have Realistic Renderings. cheesey
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Chris Cristini
Sun Nov 25 2012, 06:10PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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I will use this one post for the Variable Quad rotor Pictures to avoid to many posts.

Variable pitch Tail with the Trex 450 Main rotor blades Solidworks.
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Chris Cristini
Thu Dec 06 2012, 07:57PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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Still working on it its becoming quite a complicated assembly. I was thinking of adding some Ultra sonic range finders to prevent some crashes but learning the whole programming thing is the next tough thing to do.
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Patrick
Thu Dec 06 2012, 10:57PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Chris Cristini wrote ...

Still working on it its becoming quite a complicated assembly. I was thinking of adding some Ultra sonic range finders to prevent some crashes but learning the whole programming thing is the next tough thing to do.
IR distance sensors are about the same cost, and way less prone to drifting and falsification of distance. especially for downward looking.

you and i both need lidar as well...your machine will be too expensive to risk, and not have at least some safety features for its own survival (like emergency vertical decent control).

Such features require programming and sensors.
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Chris Cristini
Fri Dec 07 2012, 12:14AM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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I.R sounds easier than Ultrasonic I like it More research on Lidar is needed never heard of it.
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Patrick
Fri Dec 07 2012, 02:11AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Chris Cristini wrote ...

More research on Lidar is needed never heard of it.
light/laser based RAdar, important if you want "anti-collision" like features.

LiDAR is not required, but very handy for saving your machine and DSLR camera...
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Chris Cristini
Fri Dec 07 2012, 02:40AM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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Yea i did some research that is High tech expensive I am sure but this is an on going project it will be Expensive any ways Is this I.R sensor good enough for a fast reaction Link2 I only need them for blade/object collisions This thing is going to have allot of electronics on board and i don't want to strike any thing as far as Lidar goes I will have to do some more thinking
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Patrick
Fri Dec 07 2012, 05:40AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yes the sharp family are the ones i meant, but that one is no good, 10cm is 5inches, you need 10 inches min out to 30 or 50 inches range. to preevnt collisions.

EDIT: youll need some high quality ESC's, Id recommend Castle Creations Phoenix ones, they are known to have good head speed, and throttle/rpm spool up features... i can testify to their survive-ablity and ease of program-ability.



(i normally don't recommend Castle ESC's for multi-rotors, but your a special case. So for all the others Im advising on the forum, remember this thread is a special case, since the author is using collective lift control)

youll probly want to use the Multi Wii flight controller.




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Chris Cristini
Fri Dec 07 2012, 01:48PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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Thank you for the useful ideas I can not wait see the first lift off I will use the better sensors and check out the Better ESC's I like Multi Wii but I am also thinking of Arduino for Sensors And some nice Flight LED control.
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Pinky's Brain
Fri Dec 07 2012, 04:20PM
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Are you sure those electric motors get sufficient airflow for cooling?
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