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Chris Cristini
Tue Nov 20 2012, 04:55PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
Location: Claremont New Hampshire
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Electrikid221MnM wrote ...

I bought a book recently, "The Elements" by Theodore Gray (or Grey) which inspired me to start collecting samples of the elements up to 95, and even some elements up to 86 can be pretty nasty if not stored correctly, so certain elements I will probably just have items related to them. I've already obtained Aluminum, Silicon, Phosphorous, Calcium, Iron, Copper, Germanium, Krypton, Cerium, Neodymium, Europium (CFL's), Tungsten, Gold, Lead, and .9 microcuries of Americium (Ionization Smoke Detector) sealed into a case with gold film. I did not remove it from the casing, because then I would be exposed to radioactivity. Element collecting is a very fun thing to do mainly because you know you have one of the materials that are the bricks and cement of the universe.
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I found this Might be helpful Information for you.


How do people come in contact with americium-241?

Exposure to any significant amount of Am-241 is unlikely under normal circumstances.

People may be directly exposed to gamma radiation from americium-241 by walking on contaminated land. They may also be exposed to both alpha and gamma radiation by breathing in americium contaminated dust, or drinking contaminated water. Because americium-241 was widely dispersed globally during the testing of nuclear weapons, only very minute amounts of it are found in the soil, plants, and water. Living near a weapons testing or production facility may increase your chance of exposure to americium-241.

Smoke detectors containing Am-241 also provide some radiation exposure. However, the radiation exposure people receive from a smoke detector is very low. The health risk reduction from the fire protection vastly outweighs the health risk from the radiation. That said, you should still handle smoke detectors containing americium with care. To avoid exposure:
never dismantle a smoke detector
never burn a smoke detector in your fireplace

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which regulates the radioactive material in smoke detectors, permits their disposal as ordinary trash.
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Physics Junkie
Wed Nov 21 2012, 06:09PM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Hey this is a really cool idea! Some of the other more easily obtainable elements might be like carbon, lithium, magnesium , potassium, helium, etc.. Even on a budget they can be found in vitamins you might have around your house, helium balloons are cheap but we all on know balloons dont last very last very long. If you live in an area with hard water you could always dissolve a bunch from the tap and see what you get! Happy hunting the elements!
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Josh Campbell
Wed Nov 21 2012, 09:27PM
Josh Campbell Registered Member #5258 Joined: Sun Jun 10 2012, 10:15PM
Location: Missouri - USA
Posts: 119
It would be cool to have the elements in a wall mount case with the periodic table behind each section. Something like this Link2
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Myke
Thu Nov 22 2012, 06:13PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
Location: MIT
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There's this thing that's pretty cool: Link2
Also some stuff here: Link2
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Josh Campbell
Fri Nov 23 2012, 06:53AM
Josh Campbell Registered Member #5258 Joined: Sun Jun 10 2012, 10:15PM
Location: Missouri - USA
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Myke wrote ...

Also some stuff here: Link2

That's exactly what I had in mind. Cool stuff.
Can you imagine an earthquake or kid knocking that over and mixing the wrong elements though...
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Chris Cristini
Fri Nov 23 2012, 04:24PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
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I had large amounts of Mercury from all kinds of tilt sensors but then I learned all about the effects on Mercury and Neurons in the brain so I trashed all of it Be careful with what you mess around with It could lead to serious problems that will last the rest of your life. I don't recommend doing this Link2
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Josh Campbell
Fri Nov 23 2012, 05:49PM
Josh Campbell Registered Member #5258 Joined: Sun Jun 10 2012, 10:15PM
Location: Missouri - USA
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Just about everything on this forum has some type of health hazard associated with it. As with any project, educate yourself on the effects of each component of that project. In this case you have a lot of MSDSs to read!


Also the alpha particles emitted from Americium are not stopped by foil, it the harmful γ-radiation that you would want to worry about. However the isotope used in most detecters emits a negligible amount of gamma radiation (sorry hulk).

And Americium decays into neptunium-237 so if you have Americium you also have a small percentage of neptunium-237 depending on it's age.


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HV Enthusiast
Sun Nov 25 2012, 06:00PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Cool project!!!

How are you going to store the gases??? cheesey
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