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How to deal with a spider infestation?

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GrantX
Thu Nov 08 2012, 04:56AM Print
GrantX Registered Member #4074 Joined: Mon Aug 29 2011, 06:58AM
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Gday everyone.
It seems I've been exiled from my workshop by the usual Spring Horde-of-Ungodly-Redbacks-and-Huntsmen, and I'm losing the war to regain my territory. The problem is I cannot use any hefty poisons, due to pets and livestock, and a simple can of bug spray is ineffective, since my workshop is 15 metres by 12 metres with a very high barn style ceiling, so any spray will disperse and be useless.

I bought one of those cheap bug zapper racquets, ripped the mesh racquet off and left the HV wires from the CW multiplier hanging out the end. It made short work of a few redbacks at ground level, but eventually died from continually being shorted out.

Next, I did something rather naughty. I grabbed my old 12kV 60mA NST and constructed a "deathstick" out of some PVC pipe and spark plug wire. Well, 6kV and 60mA is definitely effective at destroying any creepy crawlies, but its simply not safe. Its fine to get any spiders chilling on the floor, but it becomes FAR too dangerous when I have to climb the walls or reach into confined spaces.

Really not sure what to do now. The spiders seem completely happy to crawl through all my components, hide under my soldering station, documents and my office chair, and even decided to start building webs inside the secondary of my SGTC (and refuse to vacate even when the bloody thing is spewing out streamers!!).

I'm getting desperate, and am beginning to wonder what 2.45GHz and 800W will do to their fat juicy bodies...
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Patrick
Thu Nov 08 2012, 05:06AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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In lawsuit/EPA happy CA, they dont let teachers use bug spray,so there are "approved" chemicals like borax powder i think, well it started with a B. the powder gets eaten and inhaled and suffocates them or the die from eating it, since insects cant vomit its super poisionous to them, but not children i guess.

I whish i could remmber teh name of it! im druNk at the moment btu it may come to me in the morning.

burning your place down, with HV, is not a useful solution.







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Pinky's Brain
Thu Nov 08 2012, 08:24AM
Pinky's Brain Registered Member #2901 Joined: Thu Jun 03 2010, 01:25PM
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If you're going to be manual about it why not just use the shopvac? Has the advantage of not showering everything with a thin coating of spider guts.

PS. the stuff Patrick is talking about is Boric Acid. Another relatively safe anti-insect powder is Diatomaceous earth.
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Carbon_Rod
Thu Nov 08 2012, 09:00AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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I have recommended diatomaceous earth to other members:
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It is cheap, kills insects or arachnids, and commonly "Food Grade" for livestock.


...fire also works apparently... wink
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Nik
Thu Nov 08 2012, 09:25PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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You could tape all the gaps in the walls, windows and doors shut and shovel a few pounds of dry ice in there. Just make sure to air it out the next day before you go in.
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Dr. Drone
Thu Nov 08 2012, 10:42PM
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shades
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klugesmith
Thu Nov 08 2012, 10:47PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Nik wrote ...
You could tape all the gaps in the walls, windows and doors shut and shovel a few pounds of dry ice in there. Just make sure to air it out the next day before you go in.

To displace all the air from aforementioned barn, I figure you'd need about 2 tons of carbon dioxide gas.

Are arachnids as susceptible as red-blooded vertebrates to carbon monoxide poisoning?
If so, then light up some charcoal-fired grills in there.
Or look into the 19th century processes that turned coke into CO, e.g. for illumination by gas.
Avoid the ones using steam, which IIRC produce more H2 than CO.
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lightlinked
Fri Nov 09 2012, 05:30AM
lightlinked Registered Member #2087 Joined: Tue Apr 21 2009, 08:32AM
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have you tried spider glue traps? you stick em where they walk by, sticky side up, like along the wall next to a door, and they get stuck. mice too but mice glue traps dont work for bugs.
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GrantX
Fri Nov 09 2012, 08:55AM
GrantX Registered Member #4074 Joined: Mon Aug 29 2011, 06:58AM
Location: Australia
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Hey Dr Spark, I'd be a little worried about your lizards, heres a rather nasty Redback chowing down on a live Skink lizard o.O
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I've been using the vacuum cleaner to suck up the webs and egg sacs, but I'm kinda paranoid about filling the vaccum bag up with live spiders, so I've been tending to zap them before disposing of the corpses.

Luckily the entire barn is constructed from galvanized steel with it's own copper ground rod, and both the steel structure and the rebar in the concrete are bonded to mains earth, so no fires or damage are caused by some stray arcs. Its practically a dedicated HV hall (with its own sub switchboard equipped with 4x 30A breakers :D). But never the less, there is still the personal danger associated with going NST-wild.

I'm really liking the idea of diatomaceous earth and spider glue traps, as both can be found locally and cheaply. I'm still not sure how to get them out of the rafters however, which is the worst part because occasionally when it's quiet you can hear the dull *plop* of a fat juicy Redback dropping from the ceiling :( ... It's horrifying...
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Carbon_Rod
Fri Nov 09 2012, 09:29AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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If you create a duster make sure to wear a dust mask, and eye protection.

A regular handheld sandblaster for a shop compressor, or re-purposed dry chemical fire extinguisher works..
Takes about 10 seconds using the latter method, but will put a layer on everything in the room.

In general, start by "painting" the outside of the building's footings, and consider Teflon bug barrier tape twice the diameter of you most common pest.

Looks like you now have a Lizard infestation too... wink
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