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HV Enthusiast
Wed Sept 12 2012, 01:53PM
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Cool. Nice write up.
Kind of miss the mechanical complexity of spark gap coils! People really came up with some cool designs for their spark gaps.
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Steve Conner
Wed Sept 12 2012, 03:08PM
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The good old days of spark gap coils! :^)

FWIW, I once did a costing exercise for someone that showed that a DRSSTC was more expensive than a SGTC of the same power output. If you bought the IGBTs and heatsinks new, and costed the driver circuitry at what it really cost to assemble, it added up to more than the SGTC's high voltage transformer.

Of course the game changer is that the DRSSTC can play cheesy tunes.
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Dr. Drone
Wed Sept 12 2012, 07:29PM
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Thu Sept 13 2012, 06:07PM
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I wonder if anyone is still making any technological advancements in amateur spark gap design enlight of the solid state Tesla craze in the past 10 years.

The last big push, as least as far as i know, was when Richard Hull and the TCBOR were doing all their research into Magnifier design and designing compound (static / rotary) spark gaps.

I always enjoyed Terry Blakes ARSG designs as well. His innovative approach showed you didn't need fancy machining skills or hard to find sync motors to build a high power rotary spark gap.
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Herr Zapp
Fri Sept 14 2012, 03:14AM
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EVR -

Several other interesting implementations of rotary spark gaps:

1. The "DPDT switch" contact arangement for a DC-charged coil. In this design, two pairs of electrodes align initially to connect the tank cap to the charging circuit, further rotation disconnects the cap from the charging circuit, and finally another pair of electrodes come into play to connect the cap to the tank circuit. This isolates the charging circuit from the tank circuit at the time the cap's energy is dumped into the tank circuit.

2. The "super series" arrangement, where there are an equal number of stationary and flying electrodes. All the electrodes are connected in series, so there are many more gaps "in circuit" for improved quenching without requiring any additional series static gaps.

3. The "dual contra-rotating disk" design, where a timing-belt drives two "overlapping" RSG disks. The arc path is stationary electrode #1 to flying electrode on disk #1 to flying electrode on disk #2 to stationary electrode #2. The advantage is (supposedly) the increased approach and separation velocity of the flying electrodes.

Herr Zapp
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Steve Conner
Fri Sept 14 2012, 07:56AM
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I'd like to see the cheesy tunes played with a triggered static gap, and maybe a big transmitting triode to modulate the charging voltage and help with quenching.
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