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Graham Armitage
Mon Dec 01 2014, 09:05PM
Graham Armitage Registered Member #6038 Joined: Mon Aug 06 2012, 11:31AM
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Great videos - looks like fun. Question - what type of switch/contacts are you using to discharge the caps?
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Mads Barnkob
Thu Dec 18 2014, 06:40PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I made a spring loaded switch that charges the capacitor when pulled backwards and when you let it go it disconnects from the charger and shorts the capacitor through the larger wires connected to the load.

This way I do not have to worry about damaging the charger circuit from reverse voltage spikes.
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dex
Fri Dec 19 2014, 10:26AM
dex Registered Member #2566 Joined: Wed Dec 23 2009, 05:52PM
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29 kA is a lightning like current. Ok, this is only 1.8 kV but still >1 kV and counts as high voltage. Nice measuring system as well. Last time I checked hf current probes, they were expensive like hell
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Mads Barnkob
Fri Dec 19 2014, 02:19PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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dex wrote ...

29 kA is a lightning like current. Ok, this is only 1.8 kV but still >1 kV and counts as high voltage. Nice measuring system as well. Last time I checked hf current probes, they were expensive like hell

Once in a while you can find a cheap Pearson current monitor on ebay, by cheap I mean around 100-200 USD for a 5kA and up to 100kA models. Connected through a 1:10 probe its easy to measure to the monitors maximum current on a regular 300V max input oscilloscope.
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Signification
Tue Feb 03 2015, 10:21PM
Signification Registered Member #54278 Joined: Sat Jan 17 2015, 04:42AM
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CHARGING LARGE CAPACITOR BANKS:
I have several homemade high voltage capacitor chargers. One in particular is made from a neon sign transformer (NST). I charge the very large heavy Maxwell type caps for explosive discharges. I got tired of having to disconnect the charger before discharging the caps (...somewhat dangerous too). One thing I did, recently, was connect the charger directly to the caps through the extremely high inductance of secondarys of automotive ignition coils. I have two ignition coils on the charger--one on each line going to the cap bank (one will do). The wire in these automotive coils is EXTREMELY thin (less than 40AWG??). Well, it charges fine--in fact, the coils don't noticeably affect the charging rate, and so far the monstrous discharges have not harmed the charging circuit--which includes a sensitive voltmeter.

MEASURING LARGE DISCHARGE CURRENTS:
In the 80's I started using thin short lengths of steel as current shunts for measuring 10's of amps. Then, I was asked to look into an electrical problem at a large steel plant. I needed to measure large current spikes on three phase lines. The simple sensors I ended up using were 1/4 inch steel bolts (all thread eventually). They could handle 100's of amps and, obviously, simple to adjust. If I recall correctly, it required just a few inches to make a 0.001 ohm (1 milliohm) resistor. This gave *1* volt across per *1000* amps through. I now use an 800 amp brass current shunt (cheap from ebay) to tune laser flashlamp inductors to critical damping by capturing the current waveform (as well as calibrated amplitude) on a storage scope. BTW, I see no reason that larger all-thread wouldn't be good for 10's of thousand amps.
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