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zzz_julian_zzz
Sat Jul 21 2012, 08:51AM
zzz_julian_zzz Registered Member #3964 Joined: Thu Jun 23 2011, 03:23AM
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no, it will work as a capacitor (which adds capacitance, but will not snub or cut the spikes) You could use Link2,r:16,s:115,i:122 (disregard the TS01)

or Link2
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Unleashed
Sat Jul 21 2012, 10:57AM
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Hello everyone again.

Someone told me that the primary has a phasing, honestly i didn't considerate that since it's AC.

Does the primary have to be wound on the same sense of the secondary?
And also, should i try to invert the polarity of the primary to the bridge?
Thanks.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Jul 21 2012, 11:03AM
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The primary does not need to be wound in the same direction as the secondary.
However, the feedback loop has to have the right phasing, so only one polarity of the primary relative to the bridge will work.
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Unleashed
Sat Jul 21 2012, 11:05AM
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Alright then, i will try like that.
I couldn't get the snubbing capacitor yet, but if i'll see that it's not ok i will stop before mosfets blow up.

Anyhow, can the primary wrong phasing blow mosfets and cause very low output with very high amp drain?

Thanks.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Jul 21 2012, 11:18AM
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I think it can.
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zzz_julian_zzz
Mon Jul 23 2012, 02:32AM
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Yes, somehow, the coil bridge sucks more power / current than it should be, but the output were not that good, because of the phasing and the re-feedbacking of the controller. Never operate your coil without snubb caps. (you will just blow your fets)
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Unleashed
Tue Jul 24 2012, 05:44PM
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Hello everyone.
I've redesigned my bridge.
here is a photo
Link2
What do you think?
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Unleashed
Tue Jul 24 2012, 07:23PM
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As snubber cap, i found this: Link2 on ebay.

Is this ok?
I don't wanna spend money for nothing.

Thanks.
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zzz_julian_zzz
Wed Jul 25 2012, 05:35AM
zzz_julian_zzz Registered Member #3964 Joined: Thu Jun 23 2011, 03:23AM
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This cap is exactly what I am using to achieve 3 ft streamer.
Your bridge look nicer than before. What you need to do is to check your controller, then fire it up again
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Ben Solon
Wed Jul 25 2012, 06:30AM
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Fjust to correct what I see as a misconception in this thread. ALL capacitors "snub". The only thing hat dictates how well the do so is how fast they can accept charge, which directly translates to current. You could use anything from 20nF to 2mF, it all depends on the use. The benefit of small capacitors(the 2-20uF usually used) are that they can be physically close to the device.

To put in another way, if you want to snub 1J of transient energy, a 10u cap may see a voltage rise of 20v, where for the same energy transfer a 100u snubber may only rise 2v. These numbers are made up, but you should see what I am saying.

If you could fit a high current 100uf cap as close to the bridge as you could a 1u, then it would be preferred. But the main limiting factor is pulse current, so find a decent metalized film cap that can be close enough to the bridge.
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