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why wont my vttc work!!!

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jake3085
Fri Jul 06 2012, 03:17PM Print
jake3085 Registered Member #4800 Joined: Wed May 09 2012, 04:23AM
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hello everyone

i got my gu81m tube today and decided to put my tesla coil together, i have checked everything and it all seemed too be wired up correctly but when i turned it on i got nothing, no tube reddening, no streamers, no humming (exept for my noisy fillament transformer), no nothing!!!! i tried changing the direction of both feedback and primary coil and that made no difference i tried two mots 1 mot, still nothing. yes the secondary is grounded and i also tried arcing the secondary to a grounded rod, still no arc!!! why.

here are the values being used:
grid resistor 4k
grid capacitor 1.5nf
tank capacitor 1nf
tube gu81m
filament capacitor 4.7nf
all grids are connected together

pls help!!!!

here are some pics




1341580305 4800 FT0 Img 1144

1341580305 4800 FT0 Img 1145

1341581337 4800 FT0 Img 1146

1341581337 4800 FT0 Img 1147

1341587875 4800 FT0 Img 1146
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Dr. Drone
Fri Jul 06 2012, 03:40PM
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shades
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Jul 06 2012, 04:12PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Please post your schematic and shorten your wiring...
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jake3085
Fri Jul 06 2012, 04:40PM
jake3085 Registered Member #4800 Joined: Wed May 09 2012, 04:23AM
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Dr. Spark wrote ...

Did you connect one side of the filament to ground? Got schematic we can look at?

Dr. Dark Current wrote ...

Please post your schematic and shorten your wiring...

ok here is the schematic :)



1341592569 4800 FT141258 Vttc


i made mine like this except mine has the level splitter an RF choke on the anode and a 4.70nf capacitor in parallel with the filament :)
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Jul 06 2012, 05:57PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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OK so is the cathode of the tube connected to the "cold" end of the transformer? You see the filament glowing, right?

Can you post a picture of your tank capacitor?
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kilovolt
Fri Jul 06 2012, 06:01PM
kilovolt Registered Member #2018 Joined: Tue Mar 10 2009, 09:56AM
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Are there earth grounds on the feedback resistor and the center tap of the filament transformer?

Maybe the coil is just out of tune. With a discharge lamp (neon lamp or similar) you could check if there is an rf field near the coil. The light bulb lights up long before there is a discharge from the top terminal.

Best regards
kilovolt
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jake3085
Sat Jul 07 2012, 02:02PM
jake3085 Registered Member #4800 Joined: Wed May 09 2012, 04:23AM
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kilovolt wrote ...

Are there earth grounds on the feedback resistor and the center tap of the filament transformer?

Maybe the coil is just out of tune. With a discharge lamp (neon lamp or similar) you could check if there is an rf field near the coil. The light bulb lights up long before there is a discharge from the top terminal.

Best regards
kilovolt

yes the earth is connected too the center tap of the filament but not the feedback resistor instead i have the grids going into the the resistor and cap and then into the feedback coil and then to ground does this make a difference ? ill try changing it and ill also make a schematic of my exact setup :)
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jake3085
Sat Jul 07 2012, 02:06PM
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Dr. Dark Current wrote ...

OK so is the cathode of the tube connected to the "cold" end of the transformer? You see the filament glowing, right?

Can you post a picture of your tank capacitor?

yeah the filament glows and is being powered at 12.6v the cathode is connected to the enter tap of the filament :)
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jake3085
Sat Jul 07 2012, 02:37PM
jake3085 Registered Member #4800 Joined: Wed May 09 2012, 04:23AM
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OK so here is the exact setup of my vttc, does it matter what side of the feedback coil the grid leak system is on?
1341671825 4800 FT141258 Gu81m Vttc Schematic
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RateReducer
Sat Jul 07 2012, 02:39PM
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You could try to change the polarity of the feedback winding wink
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